Instaltion_07 SMG

cooldude5990 · Post by **cooldude5990** » Thu Mar 17, 2005 3:13 pm

This is still a wip but its almost done

Waverunner · Post by **Waverunner** » Thu Mar 17, 2005 4:01 pm

Thats looking awesome.

I hope to see some awesome skinning on this!

very nice

Katarn · Post by **Katarn** » Thu Mar 17, 2005 4:19 pm

pretty detailless and the front and back sights really suck.

BEEF!!! · Post by **BEEF!!!** » Thu Mar 17, 2005 5:13 pm

Katarn wrote:pretty detailless and the front and back sights really suck.

It could use some more detail but keep in mind the poly count. So not too many details. But other than that i think it looks good.

Katarn · Post by **Katarn** » Thu Mar 17, 2005 5:52 pm

BEEF!!! wrote:
Katarn wrote:pretty detailless and the front and back sights really suck.
It could use some more detail but keep in mind the poly count. So not too many details. But other than that i think it looks good.

...The polycount on that should be less than 1000

Samio · Post by **Samio** » Thu Mar 17, 2005 6:17 pm

The concept is nice, it seems to go with all the other weapons I've seen in installation_07. Here's my input....The handle looks a bit too small and extremely rounded, almost as if you used meshsmooth (if so, try the chamfering or connect tool instead). The clip will need alot of textured details, if you dont think the skin will be too good I'd say add some more details on the clip. The handle could use a little details. The body of the gun could have some small switches and stuff (maybe to switch from semi-automatic to fully automatic). I think the scope would look better as a circle instead of a square. The barrel could be a bit smaller, looks wierd when it's that fat. I really like the concept and feel of the gun though. If you do what I said I think it will turn out very good.

When you'r stumped on details, just imagine you found a real sub-machine gun lying around (lol) and picked it up, what would you expect to see on it?

Katarn · Post by **Katarn** » Thu Mar 17, 2005 6:22 pm

Samio wrote:The concept is nice, it seems to go with all the other weapons I've seen in installation_07. Here's my input....The handle looks a bit too small and extremely rounded, almost as if you used meshsmooth (if so, try the chamfering or connect tool instead). The clip will need alot of textured details, if you dont think the skin will be too good I'd say add some more details on the clip. The handle could use a little details. The body of the gun could have some small switches and stuff (maybe to switch from semi-automatic to fully automatic). I think the scope would look better as a circle instead of a square. The barrel could be a bit smaller, looks wierd when it's that fat. I really like the concept and feel of the gun though. If you do what I said I think it will turn out very good.

When you'r stumped on details, just imagine you found a real sub-machine gun lying around (lol) and picked it up, what would you expect to see on it?

I agree completely, except the thing that switches between semi and fully automatic is called a fire selector. It isn't a scope, those are iron sights. The barrel could be a bit smaller, but not too small. I'm speculating this to be about 9mm so, take a centimeter, and make the barrel that size in comparison to the rest of the gun. The clip needs more MODELED detail, and the grip looks fine imo, just too thin. The dissapointing thing is there is no ejection port, the casings just magically dissapear after being used.

Pie · Post by **Pie** » Thu Mar 17, 2005 6:35 pm

Always model a weapon to be the best you have ever made. Use every bit of detail you have in you. Then scale down the polygons.

That's my motto. Do your best, ever, then simplify to good poly count. But always keep a save of the better one as well.

Waverunner · Post by **Waverunner** » Thu Mar 17, 2005 7:25 pm

Sometimes I think details can make a gun look to crazy. I agree the sights could be better than that, but otherwise It looks nice.

maca_§ · Post by **maca_§** » Thu Mar 17, 2005 11:04 pm

I like the model so far, the ending model should be good.

SnaFuBAR · Post by **SnaFuBAR** » Fri Mar 18, 2005 12:36 am

[quote="Katarn]The dissapointing thing is there is no ejection port, the casings just magically dissapear after being used.[/quote]

what if it's caseless rounds? there does need to be some more details modeled, tho. i know you're capable, falcon!

cooldude5990 · Post by **cooldude5990** » Fri Mar 18, 2005 3:17 am

thanks guys there arent many more details to add unless i make some up. and ill fix the sites

and samio i did chamfer the handle not mesh smooth it i dont use that.

Katarn · Post by **Katarn** » Fri Mar 18, 2005 7:49 am

SnaFuBAR wrote:
Katarn wrote:The dissapointing thing is there is no ejection port, the casings just magically dissapear after being used.
what if it's caseless rounds? there does need to be some more details modeled, tho. i know you're capable, falcon!

There is only one gun in the world that uses caseless rounds. It is large and heavy. The H&K G11 is a pretty useless product because it is very complicated and hard to mass produce. Caseless ammunition is a thing of the past, it was developed 45 years ago in the 60s and no one has adopted it because it is no more appealing than case ammunition. (and was more expensive to produce.)

Samio · Post by **Samio** » Fri Mar 18, 2005 9:36 am

Wait, cooldude is falcon? Heh....never knew.

(I wouldn't of asked you if you used meshsmooth =P
Then just make the handle a bit bigger, imagine holding the gun, the handle would be kind of small.)

Sonictag · Post by **Sonictag** » Fri Mar 18, 2005 9:50 am

Looks good, the handle looks the best part of it to me, looks like it would be cool to hold but then again i have never held a real gun

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