Other biped tags?

[[CAF]M808B]

Hey,

Does anyone have some other biped, animation, model, actor etc etc tags for units other than SPARTANs? Like, grunts, elites, hunters, etc., or does anyone know how I can extract them?

Thanks!

[[CAF]M808B]

Uhh, ok so far all my questions on this forum have been unanswered, and I think I'm a bit confused...

People say there is no way to open a .map file and extract tag data from it, however HMT and HHT can read data and edit tags and then I see people with extracted tags. Is there something I'm missing here? If the format is known, why isn't there an extractor?

[AuTolVlaTiC]

well for the bipeds, if you open a SP map, then all the bipeds for each character are in there...thats all i know right now...

[[CAF]M808B]

Right, but THOSE ARE METAS!

Come on, if people can read other tag information to edit in HMT and HHT, why can't we make an extractor? The format is known for christ's sake!

[[users]axem]

many extracters have been made. and not been released for good reasons. it would just be simply to powerfull. thats the main reason.

[picklebro]

Too powerful? LOL - what would people do, blow up their house?

I suspect its either that they are command line driven and nobody wants to write instructions for them or that people are afraid that if they give out their extractor tool that someone else will pass them up and their map won't be the coolest one out there anymore.

[[CAF]M808B]

Oh come on, that's destroying the Halo CE community at the moment. I don't care if I have to change jumper cables if I have to, an extractor would be nice! If someone wants to keep it non-public, well AllDevCE has remained out of the hands of people who will abuse it I believe? Besides, only an absolutely retarded and disrespectful person would not give credit and ASK BEFOREHAND when they take something from someone elses map...

[[users]axem]

NO. Talk to SteelixB if you want a better explination. and if you want one some badly do it yourself. Remember one important law of all life.
SOME THINGS ARE BETTER LEFT ALONE.
And people who medel around doing stuff they shoulldnt can kill/ hurt things around them.
Meta Extracters are perfect examples. They never should have been made. They mess with stuff that needs to be left alone. Thats why there arnt any public extracters out. And thats why i will NEVER release a tutorial on how to make campaighn mode for Halo CE.
Anyway, what would you ratehr have? people doing there best to make there own bipd tags, Or people RIPPING and making noobie mods and not trying there best at making mods/maps. You tell me what you think.

[[CAF]M808B]

And how will more maps and modders hurt the Halo CE community? Am I missing something?

[[users]axem]

Yes you are. And you wont know it obviously.With a tag conveter You could make halo pc become halo ce. That is not good.

[[CAF]M808B]

Uh, I was talking about an extractor, not a converter. More maps and ideas and possibilities doesn't destroy a game you know, it fuels it. Since when were we talking about PC? And who cares about PC,

[[users]axem]

Uhh, ok so far all my questions on this forum have been unanswered, and I think I'm a bit confused...

People say there is no way to open a .map file and extract tag data from it, however HMT and HHT can read data and edit tags and then I see people with extracted tags. Is there something I'm missing here? If the format is known, why isn't there an extractor?

Stupid. you are talking about a converter. not a extracter.
and like i have been saying. it will KILL HALO CE. and if i cant get it through your thick noobie skulls then SteelixB can. hes not on but ask him when he is. on why he hasnt realeased a extracter(as you want to call it) Do you want halo ce to be halo pc? i think not. anyways. if your luck i will release my version of HEK and Halo CE once i finnish my Halo CE campaign Game.

[[CAF]M808B]

why isn't there an extractor?

Actually, I'm talking about an EXTRACTOR, which reads tags out of a singleplayer map level, for example, and spits them out in tag format, instead of meta format.

[[users]axem]

That is basicly a converter. it converts meta tags on export. but i wouldnt expect a noob to understand. Expecially one that denies i know more then he does. (if you have a quistion, read my sig.)

[[CAF]M808B]

Since when did I deny it? And the flaming really isn't needed...

There is nothing that's going to make a Halo CE map "converter" if that's what YOU want to call it, destroy Halo PC! Notice there is no HEK for PC? You can't put tags back in unless you make the utility have the ability to inject tag files, which would just be stupid.

[[users]axem]

dude, i am not flaming. flaming is more like this:(please excuse this) YOU ARE A FU.KIN MORON. YOUR A WASTE OF MY TIME YOU AS.SHOL.E. Thats flaming. and i didnt mean any of that.

Now what you think i am saying is a converter of converting halo pc maps to halo ce maps. that is NOT what i am saying. i am saying is extracting meta files from halo pc and converting them into tags for Halo CE. And what do you think you are on? A xbox? Wrong. you are using a pc. And HEK is on a PC. Iam a wrong? If so, then wheres a hek off a pc(like in a xbox) So you Completly misunderstand me.

Anything else you might need clearing on?

And incase you want a example, then here is a example.

I extracted a meta tag from Halo PC. It is a elite animations.meta file.
i want the animations file to become a animations tag for Halo CE.So i open a converter, and choose all the neccasary items and other cool things. i hit convert. And it spits out a Halo CE (gurillea compatiable) animations tag.

Do you understand now?

[[CAF]M808B]

I understand exactly. What I don't understand is how that will "kill/destroy" everything/anything around it as you said?

[[users]axem]

because, peoples hard work would be over nothing. its better to work hard for somthing you really need. instead of ripping, its better to make it yourself. How would you feel if you made good elite tags and then someone released a converter and people made better tags via ripping them off Halo PC or Halo2.(Not sure about Halo2, Havnt Tried)
And what do you think would happen if someone was working hard on making Single Player for Halo CE from scrach (like me) and someone else just came and ripped everything they needed. How would you feal?

[[CAF]M808B]

Right now you and all those other "innovators" are being quite selfish. You just want to be the only one with an awesome map. Perhaps I might hate your map, and then Halo Singleplayer is ruined for me. But, if there are more maps, than it's more fun, because I don't HAVE to play the bad ones. And if you think it's destroying your hard work, it's only destroying it because you aren't releasing any information. If you had, you would be working hard for the community. In this case, you are being selfish. Now who's destroying Halo?

[{WoD}Deamon]

you know what Axem, you've been telling people about this crazy idea that some day you'll make a single player map, but wait where is the info, and where is the proof that you can do it. So far based on one of your topics, I haven't seen not one picture of your work. You may not know who I am, but I do know who you are, so the more bull you talk the worse chance there is for people to recognize you as anybody. I understand that you do know what you're doing, but you're keeping it soo secret like it's worth a billion dollars. If you think you know something, then I would sugest doing it with a "team" and not keep a complete secret.