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So you are calling me selfish for taking MY FREE TIME to code a program that complex, while you sit there with your hands out and mouth open waiting for it to be handed nicely to you without you contributing anything at all?

I'm not only speaking to zimbomonkey when I ask that, theres tons of other people in this community who want us devs to wipe their ass everyday. You know who you are, stop being lazy, pick up a book on programming, and learn it yourself.
Personally, I think cluis is an @$$ for not wanting to release a program that he has that would change the world of modding as we know it just because he's selfish and wants to have near-exclusive access to the best modding technologies available.
Nope. Theres reasons why Xapien was intended to be private. 1) The "wipe my ass" noobs. 2) Xapien uses pieces of info from Prometheus, so releasing Xapien would be like releasing portions of Prometheus. No can do.
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CLuis wrote:So you are calling me selfish for taking MY FREE TIME to code a program that complex, while you sit there with your hands out and mouth open waiting for it to be handed nicely to you without you contributing anything at all?

I'm not only speaking to zimbomonkey when I ask that, theres tons of other people in this community who want us devs to wipe their *** everyday. You know who you are, stop being lazy, pick up a book on programming, and learn it yourself.
zimbomonkey wrote:Personally, I think cluis is an @$$ for not wanting to release a program that he has that would change the world of modding as we know it just because he's selfish and wants to have near-exclusive access to the best modding technologies available.
there you go zimbo he made it he has his reasons he can do whatever with it.
Cluis where did you come from?
Nope. Theres reasons why Xapien was intended to be private. 1) The "wipe my ***" noobs. 2) Xapien uses pieces of info from Prometheus, so releasing Xapien would be like releasing portions of Prometheus. No can do.
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Evolved wrote:Stay on topic or I will lock this.
ok now that CLuis has defended his integrity there arent any other reasons to fill this topic up with anything else related to Xapien. he is right, you are wrong, end of discussion....
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is there going to be any other releases by brok3n halo? :P
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Infection4389 wrote:is there going to be any other releases by brok3n halo? :P
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Evolved wasn't joking you know...

Back on topic guys, or this topic will be locked. No more warnings.
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well this is after all a "Brok3n Halo" thread....which just so happens to pertain to team talk as well but yes please do stay on topic
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Infection4389 wrote:is there going to be any other releases by brok3n halo? :P
that would be a yes........why would we start a team only to just have one big release fest? :wink:


ps: to the mods (and admins....) could you just delete the offending posts and ban the appropriate user(s)? because it's not really fair to the topic starters when one person gets mad and starts a flame war with another, but I do know that sometimes extreme measures have taken so whatever happens.
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CLuis wrote:So you are calling me selfish for taking MY FREE TIME to code a program that complex, while you sit there with your hands out and mouth open waiting for it to be handed nicely to you without you contributing anything at all?

I'm not only speaking to zimbomonkey when I ask that, theres tons of other people in this community who want us devs to wipe their *** everyday. You know who you are, stop being lazy, pick up a book on programming, and learn it yourself.
Personally, I think cluis is an @$$ for not wanting to release a program that he has that would change the world of modding as we know it just because he's selfish and wants to have near-exclusive access to the best modding technologies available.
Nope. Theres reasons why Xapien was intended to be private. 1) The "wipe my ***" noobs. 2) Xapien uses pieces of info from Prometheus, so releasing Xapien would be like releasing portions of Prometheus. No can do.
Whoa, sorry about that. I had just been told that you wanted near-exclusive access to it. I didn't know about the prometheus thing. But how could we program it ourselves when we can't get the pieces of Prometheus to work with? It isn't laziness (sp?), it's a lack of resources that keeps us from creating it ourselves.

Edit: By the way, I wasn't trying to start a flame war, I didn't even know Cluis was around anymore, he hasn't posted in so long. There's no need to ban me, I just had a misconception and acted on it. I have nothing against any of you personally, and I actually really enjoy your mods. I've made a few mods for myself, but nothing really groundbreaking. I've only been at this for two months now and in that time I've had to reformat my hard drive three times (I later discovered that it was faulty, as was my motherboard. I've just gotten new ones though, so I should do fine now). And now for some stats:
Posts I have made in this topic: 2
Posts flaming me for posts I have made in this forum: 3
Cluis wrote:I'm not only speaking to zimbomonkey when I ask that, theres tons of other people in this community who want us devs to wipe their *** everyday. You know who you are, stop being lazy, pick up a book on programming, and learn it yourself.
I have a few problems with that statement. First, You would be hard pressed to find a post on this board when when I have asked for ANYTHING AT ALL! Second, to prgram a program such as this, you need something called Software. The lowest price for C++ programming software that I've seen costs an average of $550 dollars!
Now, unfortunately, I don't have a job, because no one around here will hire a fifteen year old. I'm lucky if I'm able to get $100 in a year!
Seems to me it's a little more complicated than "Sitting down and reading a book."
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Infection4389 wrote:is there going to be any other releases by brok3n halo? :P
that would be a yes........why would we start a team only to just have one big release fest? :wink:


ps: to the mods (and admins....) could you just delete the offending posts and ban the appropriate user(s)? because it's not really fair to the topic starters when one person gets mad and starts a flame war with another, but I do know that sometimes extreme measures have taken so whatever happens.
Well, if he were to ban the people responsible, besides me you would also lose 3 great modders who had to respond after the argument had ended. we would lose,
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Evolved wrote:Stay on topic or I will lock this.
ok now that CLuis has defended his integrity there arent any other reasons to fill this topic up with anything else related to Xapien. he is right, you are wrong, end of discussion....[/quote]
These are totally inappropriate. I said one thing about your friend, he said one thing to me, and I apologized. There was no need to take it further, yet four people felt like posting anyway, just to back him up. Xbox7887's comment was especially unnecessary, because I hadn't argued!

Lastly, I would just like to say that L33T meteors is by far the coolest map I have ever played and that whoever came up with a way to manipulate weather deserves a medal, because it opens a new door in Halo 2 modding. Good job, and I can't wait to see more of what this team can do.
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Post by xbox7887 »

yes its a lack of resources on your part, but cluis and others have built it from scratch and he was saying that anyone else could do the same. there is plenty of research out there on bsps, or at least enough to get you started. i suggest you take a look at talin64's topic over at halodev or google "bsp" and you might find something else intereseting. im not exactly sure where but it was him and tsf going back and forth about it and they mapped out some of the collision header of the bsp.

now that ive answered your question i ask that you refrain from spamming this topic and if you need anything else feel free to send me a pm.
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thetyckoman wrote:
Infection4389 wrote:is there going to be any other releases by brok3n halo? :P
that would be a yes........why would we start a team only to just have one big release fest? :wink:


ps: to the mods (and admins....) could you just delete the offending posts and ban the appropriate user(s)? because it's not really fair to the topic starters when one person gets mad and starts a flame war with another, but I do know that sometimes extreme measures have taken so whatever happens.
ok cool! cant wait till what you guys come up with next :-d :P 8)
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Post by AnIdeaCame2me »

Also im not sure if this has been asked before but....

Could you do the third person view in HALO 1? (xbox version)

and Can you tell us a rough estimate of when you'll release any type of update to the CAMERA HACK MOD.
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AnIdeaCame2me wrote:Also im not sure if this has been asked before but....

Could you do the third person view in HALO 1? (xbox version)

and Can you tell us a rough estimate of when you'll release any type of update to the CAMERA HACK MOD.
he wont be makin a halo 1 3rd person trainer because he hasnt ever modded it , and by far i think this will be the last update in the trainer or if im wrong he might update it
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if someone can show me how to connect to halo 1 while its running it wouldnt take me longer than a couple hours to bang out a 3p trainer for h1 but im having issues with connecting.

now about my trainer, it wont be updated until i gain a little more knowledge in assembly. ive sort of hit a brick wall so just be patient, i havent forgotten about it. in fact i plan on adding much more to it once i get assembly down. i just havent had time for anything lately...

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AnIdeaCame2me wrote:Also im not sure if this has been asked before but....

Could you do the third person view in HALO 1? (xbox version)

and Can you tell us a rough estimate of when you'll release any type of update to the CAMERA HACK MOD.
he wont be makin a halo 1 3rd person trainer because he hasnt ever modded it , and by far i think this will be the last update in the trainer or if im wrong he might update it
it will be just as easy to do a hack for h1 and like i said i havent forgotten about mine either so dont go putting words in my mouth :razz:
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OMG 19 pAGES last time i was here it was about 4 or 5
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glitchyguardian wrote:OMG 19 pAGES last time i was here it was about 4 or 5
get back to work you slacker!
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xbox7887 wrote:
glitchyguardian wrote:OMG 19 pAGES last time i was here it was about 4 or 5
get back to work you slacker!
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all of these mods are excellent, kudos to all of you
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