Halo 2 - Storyline Theory & Questions (Long)

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Halo 2 - Storyline Theory & Questions (Long)

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Hello people,

First time posting here but i've noticed some interesting things floating around the world of halo. Im a big halo fan like all of us here and wanted to share my thoughts about ideas ive noticed and ask for you guys to help me with some questions i have. I don't know if anyone has posted these ideas already but i figured i would share anyway. Oh and i mgiht be stating a lot of information that is already said and known but its for people who may not know. Ok Here i go...

Halo 2 -

Ok first i have a year free subscription to GamePro magazine and noticed the new halo 2 ad in it. It said quote "They don't want to destory our planet...just mankind. On Nov 9. Earth will never be the same." I might be stating the obivious but somebody has to say it. Heres my idea of the storyline of Halo 2. First what if the flood someone, somehow found there way to the covie (covienet or how ever you spell it), planet and put there planet in danger. (If you remember in halo guilty spark said that the covie openned the "gate" that let the flood out...and also that the only way EVEN mister mix master chief could kill em was destory halo (about the size of a tiny moon). Ok so the fool invade the covie homeworld or neighboring moons, SO the covie is looking for more alternatives to help them in the fight..they can't win. We show up and they some how learn of earth and its nice little trees, fishes, birds, grass and noticed wow its so beautiful and great it was ...expect for one thing...humans live there and they breathe this crappy gas/type thing called oxygen (yeah i know some covie breathe oxygen but lets just stick with my theory for a sec). So they decide to invade earth and take it over to escape the flood.

Ok how i got to this conclusion is the several clues bungie has been throwing around in my face (yeah i got bungies cell phone number it starts with 555). First the new screenshots of the grunts with out breathers. This could mean that they are trying to adapt to oxygen to breathe the earths air. Another new character is the brute...which when i first saw disappointed me because he looked like a monkey type human..then it hit me DUH! the missing link! I know its a stretch to believe the brute is the missing link but it would further an idea of covies trying to take over earth...maybe they liked kidnaped humans (..and unknowing cows) and did all kinds of experiments on them (including probes and brain washing) and they became some brutes. I know i know OR this could just be another stage of covie evolution and speices. But, the idea of them adapting to earth air and/or being human bi-products isn't THAT far fetched for the halo universe. Another reason i believe this is because in the ad..they really (to me) stress the whole earth concept, it could be because they just want to "hit close to home" by showing that earth is the covie's next target. But i was thinking that the covei technology is way different and sometimes far suprior then ours. So they could destroy the earth if they REALLY wanted to...(im thinking if one battle cruiser like the Pillar of Autumn can destory an small moon/type ring like halo, then on earth (where they build these things in mass quantity) they are sitting nucular bombs waiting for someone to hit them with a sledge hammer. But maybe bungie didn't think about it like that...and the covie's just want to destroy all mankind because we are sinners in the hands of there god.

Questions-

Ok here are some questions i wonder about, and noticed about the halo internet world. First has anybody noticed that bungie is REALLY pushing this whole online multiplayer? Personally i love multiplayer and online is great but i don't and probably wont get Xbox live so im worried that because of all the extras in multiplayer online that the normal xbox-offline multiplayer will suffer. One big reason i state this is because first lets all thing who owns Halo in the long run. Mr. Mircosoft himself Bill Gates. Now he knows that we know that he knows that parents know that master chief knows that halo is the biggest best selling, most profitable game to hit a console...ever..of ever...and ever (amen). So to support xbox live (and make more money for the charging of so..) he would ask bungie to stress the online multiplayer aspect of halo 2 more then just sitting at home with your buddy smacking him in the face with nacho chips everytime you take his head out with a sniper rifle. I have Halo Pc and download Halo Ce and to me the best part about Halo Pc (and most pc games) is that online is free! I paid my dues to the cable/dsl company when i pay my bill i would rather not pay mr soft himself to pay halo online..just to play multiplayer in full...it seems very similar to online rpg games such as Finaly fantasy online, and Evercrack *cough* i mean Everquest. Don't get me wrong now im not saying that halo mutliplayer will suck because it online, just saying im noticing in all the screenshots and videos that they only stress the multiplayer online aspect of it.

To dive deeper into this idea of them stressing multiplayer, i noticed they don't show any flood (i know they are doing this to build more questions) and they dont show much about he new level landscapes (all pictures with single player screens are tight and close shots where you can see the layout of the land.) Im just wondering what will the landscape be more like? I also noticed a lot of reused textures and such...im hopeing i only saw the earlier versions of halo 2 and the new version will have more eye dropping effects/textures and innovative ideas.

-Weapons Cars & Superweapons Oh my!

Ok first off lets talk about the duel weilding option i hated it when i first saw it but the more i read into it the better i felt..i worried that they would just make it a John Woo film and add it just for the "cool" factor. But i read that they will shoot independently and that you can hold one covie and one human weapon independently as apposed to only two covie and two humans. This means that you can shoot "lets just say" an flood with an human gun [smg weapon of choice it seems] and an covie with an covie weapon [needler weapon of choice it seems]. This is a great idea but i worry with this option there is a lot of freaking arsenal your carrying. I mean how many weapons will we (the player) be able to use, i know they added the elite covie energy sword and battle rifle. SO lets say i want to carry an energy sword and battle rifle and two needlers will i be able to do so, is that to much? Or how about energy sword rocketlauncher and alien pistol. Speaking of pistols people will be so dissappointed (not me personally) that the human pistol is GONE! I know you skeptics are saying "its still there, they just arent showing it yet because they redesigned it", nope i strongly believe they got rid of it because of the battle rifle. To me this will help otu in the multiplayer aspect of the game because the pistol on Halo Pc was more dominate then any other weapon (can out snipe sniper rilfe, more powerful then assult rifle, further range then shotgun, and more accurate then rocketlauncher, not to mention faster reload then most weapons). Because of the battle rifles zoom technology and set up i believe thats why they got rid of the pistol and assult rifle. Ok next up is the vehicles, im wondering about the battle damage. In most footage of the vehicles they explode pretty quick. Is that true? I mean whats the point of driving if its just gonna get blown up after like 3 shots. The hog in halo was industructable which i loved because the only problem you could run into is that it got stuck somewhere. I love the boost feature on the ghost but will the hog have anything similar (nitrous from 2 fast 2 furious with custom graphics and neons would rule...just kidding), i know it has the new emergency break that will allow more control for the jeep of choice but will it be able to handle the ghost new speed better weapon and easiness to get out of a fight, i guess thats where the skills come in. Ok next question is about the rocket launchers of sorts. In the pc verison they added the plasma cannon, they havn't said if they installed it into halo 2 but that would rock..they said they added the brute weapon but will we be able to use it? Or will it be like the energy sword was like in Halo. So far the only stationary weapons they have are the stationary guns and turrents. Will there be any more stationary weapons such as mortors and such. And any news about the sheilds and or radar (motion detector for the anal). I hopeing the shields have been upgraded also that would be nice.

A. I.

Ok the first halo was known for its revolutionary A. I. that would duck and/or call for other help when in trouble. They would also work as a group and know when to melee attack when it was needed. Will this be better in halo 2? I mean will Halo 2 be like Halo on legendary (with the flamming ninjas and such). I hope it has setting of difficulty as in halo. I just dont want to be pissed off at a game so beautiful and immursive would keep me locked in a battle with 2 or 3 brutes for 5 hours just to make it seem longer. Will the marines freaking help this time? i mean last time they were practically worthless other then warthog jumping or laughing while they ran around with an plasma grenade on there neck. Next i heard/seen that the marines will be driving there happy asses around themselves finally with out Mister Cheif being the soccor mom lugging the kids to battle. Now will this mean that master chief will be able to hitch a ride but only through destined locations on rails (such as a rollercoaster cart in disneyland). Or will the A.I. script allow the drivers to drive around obsticles such as explosions or run into/towars enemies to try and run them over. I doubt it will be like that and most likely make the warthog drive in a set pattern, because it is easier to create and control without having such errors like having an enemy drive into an wall constantly.

Ok i think that just about does it for my Questions and Anwsers. Just wanted to give you guys something to think about and discuss. Sorry it was so long but this was somthing that bothered me for some time. I will be taking off work for two days to buy/beat Halo 2 and be the first to post that i've beaten the game (with spoiler screenshots :mrgreen:).
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Post by Spartan Foods »

First let me tell you that you have many concepts that came out of the blue...

The grunts without their masks on, they're just grunts who live on the covenant homeworld becuase there they breathe methane so they don't need a masks (all grunts need to breathe methane to live)

And then the new convenant forms, well they were always there (maybe on the covie homeworld) but they were not on the HALO installation. so now they come to earth to try to take it over.

The human pistol... well I'm pretty confident they will have it again... It's everyone's fav. If Bungie decides to take out the pistol then people won't like the game so much, and then Bungie won't make as much sales. I think it's going to be in the game, becuase everyone favores the human pistol.

If you've seen the marines in the HALO 2 trailers, well they do a bit more than in HALO, but generally this story is base around Master Chief, not the marines going to do miracles.

As for the weapons, you will probably carry like 2 or 3 weapons normally but like when you want another weapons with you to weild it then you go and just pick it up with the one your carrying, then you put in down.
So generally you will aways have 2 or 3 or whatever number of weapons but you will be able to pick one up but not carry it (like in your stock). And you know like the human pistol can be carryed in one hand... so you can wield another weapon wiht that. But if you're carrying a rocket launcher which is required two hands, then you can't wield another weapon. So the rocket launcher shold be two handed, maybe the sword too becuase you need room to fight and wing it, and sniper rifle too.

The new vehicles, well I think they will be balanced out pretty well. You know how in HALO in the AOTCR you can blow up a banshee and not be able to use it, but in multiplayer you can't? Well I think it will be balanced...

And the HALO online multiplayer... I don't know, but I don't think you will have to pay for the online multiplayer becuase again same concept, then there would not be such huge sales, and Bungie's profits would be lower, so ya....

Well correct me if I am wrong, but these are my strong opinions. and sorry for wrong spelling but I'm quite in a hurry. :wink:
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thanks man

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Ok thanks for answering my questions but i got more for ya
ok i can believe the grunt thing and alieums, cuz i believe that, the oxygen breathing grunt thing just came outta my ass.
But the pistol thing i strongly believe they are taking it out...they havn't shown it yet or the assult rifle and the battle rifle has both assult rifle nad pistol capabilities so they killed two birds with one stone...plus i think they noticed how overly powerful the damn thing was against other weapons so figure that the only way to balance it out is to replace it or weaken the hell out of it (which would piss of everybody anyway) i think since they replaced it with battle rifle that many halo players wont be as pissed when they see how good the battle rifle controls and plays. Besides i dont think people will not buy the game because its missing a pistol i mean if they had halo were we just thrown rocks at grunts (hmm new mod?) i bet at least 13% of the halo buying people would buy that....Halo just has that big of a fan base where you can paste the word "HALO" on almost anything and sell it...if they had halo toothebrushes they would be sold out by now (contact me bungie i got ideas!) for example i almost went out and bought ANOTHER xbox controller (that makes 5) JUST because it said official halo 2 controller...and had a dvd with "new unseen videos of halo 2" inside....i mean come on! everybody has seen every video made (i hope) regaurding to halo so i think its safe to say that if they take out the pistol that they would not lose customers.

Ok and about the online gaming thing ...i think you missunderstood me, Ok Xbox live you have to pay for...not actual gaming online for Halo 2. Im just saying i dont want to pay for xbox live..Just to fully enjoy halo2 multiplayer goodness. I was just relating that paying for xbox live is similar to paying for gaming...(such like evercrack) not meaning you have to pay additional fees for ever game online. Basically im saying xbox live should be free...and we should only have to pay for our broadband expenses...like how dreamcast's online thingie was...(those were the days ...Chu Chu Rocket Forever!)

But thanks for the reply man i was getting scared that i appeared to be an loser JUST for an idea....(btw i am a loser i just go to work and play Halo....no girlfriend...dont drink...dont smoke...just halo)


*sigh* thanks *sigh*
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Post by Spartan Foods »

Ya, well I was wrong about the pistol... they will not make a pistol, becuase they combined it in the battle rifle... but that's ok becuase now you have 2 tools in one. And plus who says there will be no more modding for HALO 2. Of course there will be, so someone might just be impressed to create a mod fix for all of the maps that has a pistol... you never know...

But you have like a assault rifle/pistol weapon (battle rifle) and then you have the MSG-58's (assault rifle style only smaller)

so it evens out...
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Post by Spartan Foods »

oh and the xbox live, well sorry I didn't know that you had to pay for it... don't have a xbox... but I thought you were talking about like to pay for the GameSpy stuff or whatever. So ya u got a point there.
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spartan's food rock!

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yeah halo 2 modding will uber rock btw i went to see irobot today (with will smith and his nekid ass) and the first commercial they had was for Halo 2 (IN MOVIE THEATRES!!!!) i almost left the movie theatre before the actual movie i paid for to see just to hope on halomods to ask if you guys seen the new halo 2 commerical they are running...its freaking sweet i mean they dont show any really NEW scenes that we havn't seen other then the fmv at the end of the commerical were Mr chief himself looks around and then up as alien dropships are flying above him...and he strikes a pose with his duel smgs....i started crying it was so beautiful...(seriously) i was about to start screaming and yelling for halo 2 but didn't want to bring attention to myself as the BIGGER nerd going to see a movie by myself...(btw movie was great go see it)
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Post by Spartan Foods »

hey hey calm down...

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Post by D3V0N »

Or just use my one thread I made for it. It's stickied too.
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