problems creating the bsp and scenario

silencer88 · Post by **silencer88** » Tue May 18, 2004 2:49 pm

when i try to compile my "new" (not telling) map to the bsp and scenario files, i get 6 errors in tool.exe
they come after

building intermediate geometry...
building collision geometry...
and are
### ERROR couldn't update edge #79 (red).
### ERROR couldn't update edge #308 (red).
### ERROR couldn't update edge #521 (red).
### ERROR couldn't update edge #1232 (red).
### ERROR failed to build collision geometry.
### ERROR failed to import collision bsp.

i assume the last 2 are caused by the first 4

so does anyone know what i need to do to fix this?
Thnks, S

halofreak4567 · Post by **halofreak4567** » Tue May 18, 2004 2:55 pm

here is what i get

and kirk said it is because of open edges but i checked and 3ds max said no open edges

silencer88 · Post by **silencer88** » Tue May 18, 2004 3:01 pm

thanx if anyone else knows anything or how to find these edges then please let me know

halofreak4567 · Post by **halofreak4567** » Tue May 18, 2004 3:07 pm

to find them go into 3ds max

open your map

then select the sky box

then go to modifiers list

then scroll down to STL Check

then choose open edges

then check the check box

Driver · Post by **Driver** » Tue May 18, 2004 5:46 pm

After that How Do i know where it is? WEll acutally it slects them but how Do i fix it. Its on the base

silencer88 · Post by **silencer88** » Tue May 18, 2004 6:47 pm

you need to weld them or delete them so that its one solid structure ( the whole map)

and halofreak i think maybe something happened to you original box or something. look at teh underside of the top of the box and make sure theres 2 faces there...

i finally got everything working right for the export and the compilation of the bsp and scenario

BUT
now when i try to run radiosity in sapien, i get the following error:
"degenerate triangle or triangle with bad uvs"
now, i just got through fixing another triangle problem for tool to run properly. that error was: z buffered triangles"

i lookeed that up and finally was able to find it using the vrml that is created. i thought my problems were gone, but apparently not. does anyone know how to find the "degenerate triangle or triangle with bad uvs?"

Thx S

kirks4 · Post by **kirks4** » Tue May 18, 2004 7:45 pm

silencer88 wrote:you need to weld them or delete them so that its one solid structure ( the whole map)

and halofreak i think maybe something happened to you original box or something. look at teh underside of the top of the box and make sure theres 2 faces there...

i finally got everything working right for the export and the compilation of the bsp and scenario

BUT
now when i try to run radiosity in sapien, i get the following error:
"degenerate triangle or triangle with bad uvs"

Sometimes when you get that error, it is just a bad UVW map or Unwrap for your materials. Try going in and reassigning the textures and redoing the UVW Maps and Unwraps. It worked for me on a few maps.
now, i just got through fixing another triangle problem for tool to run properly. that error was: z buffered triangles"

i lookeed that up and finally was able to find it using the vrml that is created. i thought my problems were gone, but apparently not. does anyone know how to find the "degenerate triangle or triangle with bad uvs?"

Thx S

silencer88 · Post by **silencer88** » Wed May 19, 2004 10:34 am

? wtf ?

kirks4 · Post by **kirks4** » Wed May 19, 2004 10:37 am

silencer88 wrote:? wtf ?

Good question...I have no idea what happened there...
Anyway...
Sometimes that error is due to a bad UVW Unwrap or Map. Go back into the max file and remap the level and structures within the level with new UVW maps or unwraps...That solved the error when I got it.

silencer88 · Post by **silencer88** » Wed May 19, 2004 10:54 am

aight thanx man i give it a try
UPDATE: didnt work... any other suggestions?

silencer88 · Post by **silencer88** » Wed May 19, 2004 12:46 pm

HELP plz im desperate

kirks4 · Post by **kirks4** » Wed May 19, 2004 3:39 pm

silencer88 wrote:HELP plz im desperate

Is there anyway you can take a screen shot in 3dsmax just so we can see what the level looks like just to see what we're working with? Honestly the only thing I can think of is the UVW maps because that is the only time I have ever had any problem like that.

silencer88 · Post by **silencer88** » Wed May 19, 2004 7:15 pm

thanks man, i redid that crap and it finally works right. thanks for all you help

halofreak4567 · Post by **halofreak4567** » Thu May 20, 2004 2:20 pm

when i stl check in 3ds max it says that there are no errors anywhere

dude hey kirk how come you havent pm'd me back about helping me with my map