Forge map modding

Tural · Post by **Tural** » Mon May 19, 2008 2:21 pm

Nothing that isn't public information.

SPARTAN-OMEGA · Post by **SPARTAN-OMEGA** » Mon May 19, 2008 2:23 pm

Wow...why would you ask tural that, he probably has more knowledge on these subjects than 99.9% of the community

Tural · Post by **Tural** » Mon May 19, 2008 2:26 pm

No...
I don't mod, and I'm not involved in the modding processes in any way. I just pay attention.
For the most part, everything I know can be easily obtained by anyone who wishes to find it.

jimmygoon · Post by **jimmygoon** » Mon May 19, 2008 2:29 pm

I was just curious because most projects I'd been watching haven't moved in the last month, 2+ months... so I was just wondering if you had an inside track somehow. And you "mod" enough to be well known around here...

Eaton · Post by **Eaton** » Mon May 19, 2008 2:33 pm

jimmygoon wrote:And you "mod" enough to be well known around here...

Tural is well known because he is a smart person. He is always helping out the community and he is one of the most active staff members. The forums would be a mess without him.

jimmygoon · Post by **jimmygoon** » Mon May 19, 2008 2:35 pm

Eaton wrote:
jimmygoon wrote:And you "mod" enough to be well known around here...
Tural is well known because he is a smart person. He is always helping out the community and he is one of the most active staff members. The forums would be a mess without him.

Er, yeah. I was getting Tural confused with someone else. Sorry. He changed his avatar and it threw me off. Either way though, I wasn't dissing anyone :/

unknownv2 · Post by **unknownv2** » Mon May 19, 2008 2:48 pm

grimdoomer wrote:Really? that sucks. Well, Bungie doesnt like when modded maps get out. So I guess that means only pics for now: weee

How could that possibly be fun? Yay, bipeds standing around. Never seen that before.

Anyways, I really only want to be updated on their mods because I can't do it myself. I would just like an update on something if there is anything worth posting, which I'm guessing there hasn't been.

Post by **grimdoomer** » Mon May 19, 2008 3:04 pm

Atleast till I can rehash the RSA hash

SPARTAN-OMEGA · Post by **SPARTAN-OMEGA** » Mon May 19, 2008 4:06 pm

Eaton wrote:
jimmygoon wrote:And you "mod" enough to be well known around here...
Tural is well known because he is a smart person. He is always helping out the community and he is one of the most active staff members. The forums would be a mess without him.

True that

Also Grim, Someone I know and I are working on how to claculate and fix the RSA and SHA-1 hash. You seem trust worthy enough if we find anything Ill let you know

Post by **grimdoomer** » Mon May 19, 2008 4:09 pm

SPARTAN-OMEGA wrote:
Eaton wrote:
jimmygoon wrote:And you "mod" enough to be well known around here...
Tural is well known because he is a smart person. He is always helping out the community and he is one of the most active staff members. The forums would be a mess without him.
True that

Also Grim, Someone I know and I are working on how to claculate and fix the RSA and SHA-1 hash. You seem trust worthy enough if we find anything Ill let you know

Ok, thanks so much. Ill try to hit you up on AIM maybe there is some info I could give you that might help.

SPARTAN-OMEGA · Post by **SPARTAN-OMEGA** » Mon May 19, 2008 4:18 pm

Ok, I dont wanna say to much on the forums because you know, people need to work for the info or prove they deserve it. So AIM it is, but Im almost never on so a better thing would be XBL

rocket360gs · Post by **rocket360gs** » Mon May 19, 2008 5:56 pm

I know this is obvious, but you can simply change the usermap's author in the BLF header if you are worried about accountability/banning. I don't think there is any other way to trace a modded map back to you (as long as you dont do something stupid and fileshare it).

Tural · Post by **Tural** » Mon May 19, 2008 5:59 pm

He's not withholding it because he's afraid of being punished, he's withholding it because he's not a dick.

rocket360gs · Post by **rocket360gs** » Mon May 19, 2008 6:04 pm

I didn't say he was. I was just stating that fact for anyone who wishes to know. Also, I personally don't think releasing a modded usermap that can't be used in any way for cheating is being an ass, but apparently Bungie does.

Eaton · Post by **Eaton** » Mon May 19, 2008 6:06 pm

rocket360gs wrote:I didn't say he was. I was just stating that fact for anyone who wishes to know. Also, I personally don't think releasing a modded usermap that can't be used in any way for cheating is being an ass, but apparently Bungie does.

Bungie just wants their game to be played the way it was meant to be played. They don't care if we mod as long as we do it offline.

Tural · Post by **Tural** » Mon May 19, 2008 6:11 pm

It's how it is perceived. The general public, the Bungie.net-going public is, for lack of a better term, almost entirely retarded. Their responses to it are completely retarded and it gets blown way out of proportion. News sites pick it up and start posting about mods in Halo 3 and whatever. If it could be managed as the insignificant thing it really is, it wouldn't be a problem, but people are so stupid that they become so obsessed with a tiny thing and everything gets out of hand.

rocket360gs · Post by **rocket360gs** » Mon May 19, 2008 6:21 pm

Tural wrote:It's how it is perceived. The general public, the Bungie.net-going public is, for lack of a better term, almost entirely retarded. Their responses to it are completely retarded and it gets blown way out of proportion. News sites pick it up and start posting about mods in Halo 3 and whatever. If it could be managed as the insignificant thing it really is, it wouldn't be a problem, but people are so stupid that they become so obsessed with a tiny thing and everything gets out of hand.

Good point. The threads on BNet about a modded map sound like a pack of wild animals.

Tural · Post by **Tural** » Mon May 19, 2008 6:22 pm

And, coincidentally, it's always the topic creator's friend who made it. >_>

SPARTAN-OMEGA · Post by **SPARTAN-OMEGA** » Mon May 19, 2008 6:28 pm

Lol, I know what you mean, Im just glad they ban people who post them

Post by **grimdoomer** » Wed May 21, 2008 4:22 pm

This doesent make sense, I check the Items_Spawned_OnMap byte, and its at 22. But the spawn data table says there a 0 items spawned. So im guessing there are a cuple items you cant delete because there out of bounds on some maps? The map is foundry. Is there a set amount for each map that I have to take into account?