New Heroic map pack pictures

Tural · Post by **Tural** » Mon Dec 10, 2007 6:50 pm

What Forge update..?
I assume you're talking about the new items, in which case the answer is no. That is not a game update, it is built into the new maps, and can not be added to previous maps without a large patch, and they have specifically stated they will not be doing that.

Q: Can I use these new items for Foundry in other maps.
A: Yes, you can use these in Rat

G.I.R. · Post by **G.I.R.** » Mon Dec 10, 2007 7:12 pm

But perhaps in the future, such a large patch could be applied to armor add-ons? <_<

Tural · Post by **Tural** » Mon Dec 10, 2007 7:16 pm

Armor is referenced in one map, the main menu. Forge palettes are entirely map specific, meaning the patch would have to add assets, and rebuild the entire Forge palette to include the items in every map. You'd be looking at one hell of a patch.

G.I.R. · Post by **G.I.R.** » Mon Dec 10, 2007 7:22 pm

Ah. So the Mainmenu now stores regularly used assets like BIPDs and VEHIs, but Forge palettes exist entirely separately within the map files? I'm not at all familiar with the map structure in Halo 3, but does the mainmenu basically serve as a combination of the shared.map, and mainmenu.map in Halo 2?

Tural · Post by **Tural** » Mon Dec 10, 2007 7:26 pm

Well, the assets aren't really the issue, as they'd be in the patch itself. However, the permutation palette is only in the main menu, but the Forge palette is in every map. Rather than patching one map, they'd have to patch all of them.

Either way, they aren't doing it.

G.I.R. · Post by **G.I.R.** » Mon Dec 10, 2007 7:29 pm

Tural wrote:Well, the assets aren't really the issue, as they'd be in the patch itself. However, the permutation palette is only in the main menu, but the Forge palette is in every map. Rather than patching one map, they'd have to patch all of them.

Either way, they aren't doing it.

I wasn't asking about the Forge palette, I assumed the Permutations palette would require a similar patching process and so asked if a large patch might be used for addition of new armors.

Supermodder911 · Post by **Supermodder911** » Mon Dec 10, 2007 7:30 pm

Will They be downloadable at 12:00 am?

Tural · Post by **Tural** » Mon Dec 10, 2007 7:33 pm

G.I.R. wrote:I wasn't asking about the Forge palette, I assumed the Permutations palette would require a similar patching process and so asked if a large patch might be used for addition of new armors.

The palette is the list of objects in the map. It is not the content.
The maps were not built with the intention of adding Forge content, so the entire map would have to essentially be redone.
It is safe to assume the main menu was built to accommodate DLC armors.
DLC armor would only have to change one palette, the main menu.

I fail to see where you're going with this. The fundamental difference is the one map vs. every map. Rebuilding every map via a patch would be obscene.

Supermodder911 wrote:Will They be downloadable at 12:00 am?

Q&A.

G.I.R. · Post by **G.I.R.** » Mon Dec 10, 2007 7:40 pm

Tural wrote:Armor is referenced in one map, the main menu. Forge palettes are entirely map specific, meaning the patch would have to add assets, and rebuild the entire Forge palette to include the items in every map. You'd be looking at one hell of a patch.

I guess I neglected to clarify that I understood this, and that I was explaining why I asked in the first place. Sorry for the mix-up.