Ahmadinejad in NYC

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Excuse the numbers, I copy/pasted this from wikipedia.
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He has supported Iran's nuclear program declaring it is for peaceful purposes in spite of contrary demands by the United Nations Security Council to suspend it.[8] He was condemned internationally[9] for reportedly calling for Israel to be "wiped off the map,"[9][10][11] and described the Holocaust as a myth,[9][12] leading to accusations of antisemitism.[13] In response to these criticisms, Ahmadinejad said
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UPS wrote:@ Shadowkhas,

Ahmadinejad literally has american blood on his hands in the sense that he's supplied many terrorist groups with weapons that are used to kill American soldiers. I can't go into this much because I have to leave.

@ sneakyn8

That's your perspective on America? Fat and lazy?
You've obviously never been anywhere near North America.
i live in virginia and notice i said most
EDIT:im sorry everyone for my post i was very aggrivated about the subject which i know is still not an excuse and when i said sniped i didnt mean with a gun and a bulet that would do more harm than good alot more harm i meant with a mouth and a word about the ayetollah and his involvement also im sorry for stereotyping but you have to admit that americans general attitude towards school and education is to get away as fast as possible so once again im sorry
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Is there a published Transcript of his Q&A session at Columbia University?

I'm going to choose to stay out of this whole issue though, and instead of touting about accusations and ranting about FOX, I will just stay out of it.
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Better now.
UPS wrote:He states in one of his speeches
Giving as an example the dissolution of the Soviet Union -- which he said came about "without war" -- Ahmadinejad suggested that "everything would be solved" if the Palestinian people were allowed to vote on their fate.
In truth, the Soviet Union did dissolute due to war-The Cold War. Money was spent so much on the Soviet Union's military that the government wasn't able to catch itself and collapsed.
I'm quite sure 90% of people in America would say the Soviet Union fell without a war, since there was no direct conflict between America and the US, and it was frankly mismanagement, corruption, and their brand of Communism that killed the Soviet Union, not keeping up with America.
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"Well, you have to appreciate we don't need a nuclear bomb. We don't need that. What need do we have for a bomb?" Ahmadinejad said in the "60 Minutes" interview taped in Iran Thursday. "In political relations right now, the nuclear bomb is of no use. If it was useful it would have prevented the downfall of the Soviet Union."
He keeps repeating that nukes are of no use. In political relations right now, the nuclear bomb is of no use? What about selling it? A country could always use more money, and I know a few shiite terrorist groups who would LOVE to get their hands on one.
Everyone and their pet country has a nuclear bomb now. It's importance is growing smaller.
UPS wrote:I decided to look up a bit on this 'need for energy.'
Published statistics indicate that Iran
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Ahmadinejad suggested that "everything would be solved" if the Palestinian people were allowed to vote on their fate.
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UPS wrote:Is he here to lay a wreath for the fallen of 9/11? Or is he here to lay a wreath for the terrorists who hijacked the planes?'
Obviously he requested to lay a wreath at the site, so yes. Did he say he wanted to lay a wreath for the terrorists? No. End of discussion.
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sneakyn8 wrote:about the holy wars thats because they were way way way way way way back in history and most of america is fat and lazy and wants to be done with school after (some times before) college and also a catholic person dosent have distinguishing feature as do hajis
i think he should have been sniped but i also think that what happened and was said has happened and been said and should b left at that
and a reson why he is disliked (probably the main reason) is that he took over the ayetollah
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i so disagree with him coming here, 1 he supplies the insurgents with weapons to kill our boys in blue, green, and w/e other military colors there are. Also idk why Americans would want someone over here who supports people who hate us for being ...... us. I know he came like what monday to that college and talked to the students, i know he has diplomatic immunity but im surprised someone didn't try and assassinate him.

i thought the UN said he couldn't come here to see the site of 9/11 for the fact that he supports terrorist groups its saying hey im going to go to America and see what my guys actually did, and to see what a good job they did. Idk how he could get around the UN's decision about coming here unless it was under specific terms that he was to only go certain places.
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Yeah well so let's just ignore the whole politics side to war then, right?
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Kirk wrote:Yeah well so let's just ignore the whole politics side to war then, right?
tell me one political reason why he should be here?

not everyone has the nuclear ability's the under developed mostly terrorist run country's don't have them, id say everyone needs to have them we so wouldn't need to worry about them, i say this because if we all have the bombs then we all know if i shoot he shoots me.
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newbymodder wrote:i thought the UN said he couldn't come here to see the site of 9/11
Uh, no, it was New York that said that.
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noxiousraccoon wrote:
UPS wrote:Is he here to lay a wreath for the fallen of 9/11? Or is he here to lay a wreath for the terrorists who hijacked the planes?'
Obviously he requested to lay a wreath at the site, so yes. Did he say he wanted to lay a wreath for the terrorists? No. End of discussion.
Using that logic, did he ever say he wanted to lay a wreath for the victims?
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i don't think he specified who he wanted to lay a wreath for. although some people would be like o he is laying it for all the people who died, some would see it as oh he is laying a wreath for all the terrorist that took US lives.
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newbymodder wrote:
Kirk wrote:Yeah well so let's just ignore the whole politics side to war then, right?
tell me one political reason why he should be here?
Honestly, do I have to answer this?

That's like saying Osama Bin Laden has no right to talk about what he has done, or saying a criminal doesn't deserve a trial. I see no reason why he can't try to explain himself, or just talk about current events. I'm not saying this is good, I mean, if you're on trial and you completely suck at proving your case, I could care less what happens to you, but i'd still give up my life to let you have that right to a trial.
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UPS wrote:@ Shadowkhas,

Ahmadinejad literally has american blood on his hands in the sense that he's supplied many terrorist groups with weapons that are used to kill American soldiers. I can't go into this much because I have to leave.
America supplied afganistan with guns. So does America have American blood on it's hands?
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Darco wrote:
UPS wrote:@ Shadowkhas,

Ahmadinejad literally has american blood on his hands in the sense that he's supplied many terrorist groups with weapons that are used to kill American soldiers. I can't go into this much because I have to leave.
America supplied afganistan with guns. So does America have American blood on it's hands?
YEAH BUT AMERICA ALSO HAS AMERICAN BLOOD IN ITS HANDS LOLOLOLZ

The only thing I can say on this is that if someone's reasoning for not wanting him over here is that he is "praising what his men did" (9/11), that's pure, unadulterated ignorance and bigotry.
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Ombre wrote: Using that logic, did he ever say he wanted to lay a wreath for the victims?
"President Ahmadinejad intended to lay a wreath at the site of ground zero in order to pay tribute to the victims of the terrorists attack of Sept. 11, 2001."
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noxiousraccoon wrote:
Ombre wrote: Using that logic, did he ever say he wanted to lay a wreath for the victims?
"President Ahmadinejad intended to lay a wreath at the site of ground zero in order to pay tribute to the victims of the terrorists attack of Sept. 11, 2001."
Did he say that? Show me a direct quote from him.
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noxiousraccoon wrote:
Ombre wrote: Using that logic, did he ever say he wanted to lay a wreath for the victims?
"President Ahmadinejad intended to lay a wreath at the site of ground zero in order to pay tribute to the victims of the terrorists attack of Sept. 11, 2001."
Does that mean it's true?
Its politics. Just because he SAID he 'intended' to lay a wreath at the site doesn't mean he truly intended to do so. Don't believe everything you say, or you'll be suckered very easily.
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Ombre wrote:
noxiousraccoon wrote:
Ombre wrote: Using that logic, did he ever say he wanted to lay a wreath for the victims?
"President Ahmadinejad intended to lay a wreath at the site of ground zero in order to pay tribute to the victims of the terrorists attack of Sept. 11, 2001."
Did he say that? Show me a direct quote from him.
Mohammad Mir Ali Mohammadi, a spokesman for the Iranian diplomatic mission at the UN, told the Associated Press: "President Ahmadinejad intended to lay a wreath at the site of Ground Zero in order to pay tribute to the victims of the terrorists attack."
UPS wrote:Does that mean it's true?
Its politics. Just because he SAID he 'intended' to lay a wreath at the site doesn't mean he truly intended to do so. Don't believe everything you say, or you'll be suckered very easily.
So do you believe that we're in Iraq because we're making the region better? Be careful, because you can be suckered in. If you're going to make that argument, disregard everything every politican says, not just the ones the media tells you to.
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