sapien showing up purple and not showing sky or map

Abyll · Post by **Abyll** » Sun Jul 22, 2007 9:01 pm

I've searched for about 6 hours for anything to help, with no avail.
I followed the tutorial nearly perfectly, and I did put in a sky, and i did name the material on the map +sky.
Please tell me something to help me, or show me a link if someone did answer this. I really am trying hard to not be a newb.

0m3g4Muff1n987 · Post by **0m3g4Muff1n987** » Mon Jul 23, 2007 12:40 pm

Run radiosity at quality 0. Make sure at the end you type radiosity_save.

Abyll · Post by **Abyll** » Mon Jul 23, 2007 1:27 pm

i tried that,
I saw in the tutorial he didnt do that, and could see the sky though
with mine, its just purple, and running radiosity at any level doesnt do anything; the numbers are just 0, and i can do other stuff rather than it taking processing

0m3g4Muff1n987 · Post by **0m3g4Muff1n987** » Mon Jul 23, 2007 1:32 pm

Hmm.
Make sure that in your 3ds or gmax, the place where the +sky material is applied doesn't have a UVW map on it. That might be it.

Abyll · Post by **Abyll** » Mon Jul 23, 2007 7:16 pm

that may be it, but I made a uv map for the ground texture, just like in the video tutorial.
(my level is just a box, with the bottom faces tesselated and moved up or down)
Can you make the uvw map only affect the bottom faces?

DeeXener[138] · Post by **DeeXener[138]** » Mon Jul 23, 2007 9:01 pm

Make sure the ground faces are selected and then UVW map it.

Abyll · Post by **Abyll** » Mon Jul 23, 2007 10:05 pm

ok, i tried remapping it, and reapplying the uvw map to only the bottom faces, and i re-exported, structured, and bitmapped through tool, ill try to test in sapien again...
Aaaannnnd, i get the same thing... could not teleport camera into starting bsp; all purple, and moving doesnt show anything, and still radiosity is doing nothing
Btw: when i try to do radiosity in tool,(lightmap) i get this:

C:\Program Files\Microsoft Games\Halo Custom Edition>tool lightmaps levels\sniper_ridge\sniper_ridge sniper_ridge 0 0.99
Couldn't read map file './toolbeta.map'
i'm going to render debug lightmaps for sniper_ridge of levels\sniper_ridge\sniper_ridge, and i'll stop when red+blue+green = 0.990000.
Hit control-c now if this isn't right.
WARNING: 1 clusters in structure_bsp levels\sniper_ridge\sniper_ridge have no background sound or sound environment.
start levels\sniper_ridge\sniper_ridge
0.000000
bitmap created: #256x#128, high-color, 64K-bytes
finished levels\sniper_ridge\sniper_ridge
done

C:\Program Files\Microsoft Games\Halo Custom Edition>

Cryticfarm · Post by **Cryticfarm** » Sun Jul 29, 2007 10:12 am

Thats what your supposed to get. What did you get when compiling your bsp to a scenario.

Abyll · Post by **Abyll** » Sun Jul 29, 2007 1:23 pm

this is what i got when i did structure again:

C:\Program Files\Microsoft Games\Halo Custom Edition>tool structure levels\sniper_ridge sniper_ridge
Couldn't read map file './toolbeta.map'
building intermediate geometry...
building collision geometry...
reducing collision geometry...
building collision bsp...
### WARNING found nearly coplanar surfaces (red and green).
reducing collision bsp...
verifying collision geometry...
verifying collision bsp...
building portals...
building render geometry...
building subclusters...
building pvs... building pvs... indoor maximum (from sky sky\sky_timberland\sky_timberland) is 120.000000 world units
building structure lens flares...done

structure bsp "levels\sniper_ridge\sniper_ridge"
BSP has 19065 nodes, 8700 leaves
8372 surfaces and 4786 vertices in 2 material groups
0 portals, 1 clusters

1042Kb collision data (65Kb vertices, 287Kb edges, 94Kb surfaces)
709Kb render data (190Kb vertices, 229Kb surfaces,
247Kb nodes/leaves, 41Kb clusters)
0Kb pathfinding data
----------------------
1815Kb (without debug information)

C:\Program Files\Microsoft Games\Halo Custom Edition>

the only thing is the nearly coplanar surfaces; but i dont think that would make the entire thing messed up with sapien

Cryticfarm · Post by **Cryticfarm** » Sun Jul 29, 2007 7:13 pm

Maybe it screwed up the uvwing. Any error can result in an error.

Caboose{SE} · Post by **Caboose{SE}** » Mon Jul 30, 2007 8:31 am

lawl buy a new graphics card.

Cryticfarm · Post by **Cryticfarm** » Mon Jul 30, 2007 9:19 am

Caboose{SE} wrote:lawl buy a new graphics card.

Never thought of that lol.

Abyll · Post by **Abyll** » Mon Jul 30, 2007 8:06 pm

my laptop is brand new, and the graphics isnt the problem; i can open other scenarios, its just that it wont show my map, or even the sky like in the tutorial.
Ive seen about 6 other threads like this, and none of them were even slightly answered, so please give me help.

Cryticfarm · Post by **Cryticfarm** » Tue Jul 31, 2007 5:15 am

Are you sure you added a sky?
If you want send the tags to me.

Abyll · Post by **Abyll** » Tue Jul 31, 2007 11:27 am

im pretty sure i did; but sure, how bout i send you the jms file for you to compile, so you can see if there are any errors. i might have noobed something, or maybe my tool or sapien got messed up, but sure, id appreciate your help.
(also, How do i give it to you? ie upload to here, or xfire, or email..

Cryticfarm · Post by **Cryticfarm** » Tue Jul 31, 2007 11:32 am

I added you on msn. Your yahoo but we can still talk.

Abyll · Post by **Abyll** » Tue Jul 31, 2007 11:39 am

[noob response]
you mean email? or if you mean IM, xfire is the only IM thing i have
[/noob response]

Cryticfarm · Post by **Cryticfarm** » Tue Jul 31, 2007 11:48 am

o..
Whats your xfire?

Abyll · Post by **Abyll** » Tue Jul 31, 2007 11:49 am

its abyll
[update]
good, tnx for seeing the material name thing... i hate needing to not use spaces
now then, i hate how long exporting through the listener takes
[update]
anyways.... that didnt work; i got the same problem.