MonoxideC's discussion of SP>MP on IRC

Veegie · Post by **Veegie** » Thu Mar 18, 2004 9:06 pm

<MonoxideC> keep in mind this isn't a step by step tutorial - it's ageneral overview so that people are are trying to figure it out cna make sure they are doing things right
<MonoxideC> ok first things first - you have to extract the bsp from the SP map that you want
<MonoxideC> that includes all of the dependencies, which will be things like bitms, shaders, sounds, etc
<MonoxideC> you can't do this with hmt3
<MonoxideC> it requires a custom tool - hmt3.5 will have something to do this
<Gil27> can 3.3 do it?
<SuperSunny> or hex workshop I believe, but harder
<MonoxideC> yeah gil it hink so
<MonoxideC> well super, in hex workshop you cant do it because you need the hundreds of dependencies as well
<MonoxideC> then you have to batch extract a MP map so you have all the individual resources
<MonoxideC> now - when you batch extract a map, hmt creates a file called mapname.sbsp.meta
<MonoxideC> that is NOT the bsp
<MonoxideC> it is the file header, EVERY bsp in the map, and all of the models
<MonoxideC> so what you have to do, is seperate the file header, bsp, and models in the MP map into seperate files
<MonoxideC> then, you can build the file header, SP bsp you wanna use, and the models into a new file
<MonoxideC> that's why some of you are getting garbage data for your filenames after you try to build
<SuperSunny> mono, that has to do with gren's magic tut, right?
<MonoxideC> yes
<MonoxideC> so whatyou have to do, is calculate the new index offset and modify HMT to build it there instead of the index offset of the original map
<MonoxideC> hmt3.5 has a prompt where you can manually specify the offset
<MonoxideC> then you can build the map and it will open in HMT
<MonoxideC> but you stiull have to correct some values
<MonoxideC> the sbsp has it's own magic value
<MonoxideC> it's specified int he scnr - you have to fix that value, or SE can't open the map and neother can halo, of course
<MonoxideC> that's pretty much all there is to it
<MonoxideC> generally speaking, anyway
<MonoxideC> it's not complicated at all, it just can't be done without tools and hmtv3 can't do it
<MonoxideC> it's more complicated on xbox, because bitmaps and sounds are stored int he file
<MonoxideC> and there is a size limit on xbox too, so it would probably take some manual tweaking to make sure everything is small enough

That was given directly off of IRC

gmp_gmp · Post by **gmp_gmp** » Thu Mar 18, 2004 9:08 pm

wow ill try it whenever it comes out, hmt 3.5

HunterXI · Post by **HunterXI** » Thu Mar 18, 2004 9:45 pm

when 3.5 comes out, there will probably be a tut right in the readme...

Veegie · Post by **Veegie** » Wed Mar 24, 2004 4:35 pm

bump for some peeps

EqUiNoX · Post by **EqUiNoX** » Wed Mar 24, 2004 4:38 pm

nice, it sounds loike he is almost done with 3.5. and vegito, wtf is that green thing...?

argrn · Post by **argrn** » Wed Mar 24, 2004 5:29 pm

now will all u winers stop wining about how mono is giving any information out?

maca_§ · Post by **maca_§** » Thu Mar 25, 2004 12:34 am

Equinox wrote:nice, it sounds loike he is almost done with 3.5. and vegito, wtf is that green thing...?

lol whatever it is
its funny

DHalo · Post by **DHalo** » Thu Mar 25, 2004 4:22 am

I think it's a mutated llama

halofan141 · Post by **halofan141** » Thu Mar 25, 2004 8:30 am

DHalo wrote:I think it's a mutated llama

llama camper!

MasterNeoChief · Post by **MasterNeoChief** » Thu Mar 25, 2004 8:40 am

Mono is already done with HMT...
He wants the AOTCR to finish...
Anyway, whats the magic?

halofan141 · Post by **halofan141** » Thu Mar 25, 2004 8:41 am

MasterNeoChief wrote:Mono is already done with HMT...
He wants the AOTCR to finish...
Anyway, whats the magic?

Read gren's tuts

EqUiNoX · Post by **EqUiNoX** » Thu Mar 25, 2004 9:28 am

vegito: i am editing to make it even funnier, but I am having no sucess, and it sure is taking a long time to make the conversion.

HAPPY 600 TO ME!!!

HunterXI · Post by **HunterXI** » Thu Mar 25, 2004 10:23 pm

Equinox wrote:vegito: i am editing to make it even funnier, but I am having no sucess, and it sure is taking a long time to make the conversion.

HAPPY 600 TO ME!!!

yeah, I tried editing the smiley now in Equinox's sig, but Flash MX just doesn't do teh job

happy 600 to you Jonnypoo!

Moltenar · Post by **Moltenar** » Fri Mar 26, 2004 7:54 pm

I changed it a bit and sent it off to my friend and boy was he amazed

and when i told him that the one was fake boy was he mad!!

HunterXI · Post by **HunterXI** » Sat Mar 27, 2004 11:47 am

Moltenar wrote:I changed it a bit and sent it off to my friend and boy was he amazed
and when i told him that the one was fake boy was he mad!!

haha laff at those believen' biatches! I'll probably pull the same thing on one of my friends

Kamatzu · Post by **Kamatzu** » Sun Mar 28, 2004 2:53 pm

Equinox wrote:nice, it sounds loike he is almost done with 3.5. and vegito, wtf is that green thing...?

Hes been done with it for a long time...hes just waiting for his AotCR to come first

EDIT: bah...master cheif said it already

Zeus · Post by **Zeus** » Sun Mar 28, 2004 6:40 pm

It said something about Hex editor, does this mean it is possible now?

Lamb · Post by **Lamb** » Mon Mar 29, 2004 10:32 am

Zeus wrote:It said something about Hex editor, does this mean it is possible now?

Nope nope nope, unless you manually extracted all the bitmaps and other dependencys. Instead of fiddling with the hex editor I would wait for 3.5 and then try the hex editor... "<MonoxideC> well super, in hex workshop you cant do it because you need the hundreds of dependencies as well"

MasterNeoChief · Post by **MasterNeoChief** » Mon Mar 29, 2004 10:35 am

Kamatzu wrote:
Equinox wrote:nice, it sounds loike he is almost done with 3.5. and vegito, wtf is that green thing...?
Hes been done with it for a long time...hes just waiting for his AotCR to come first

EDIT: bah...master cheif said it already

hehe...
BEAT YA!
Anyway, is there a date scheduled?

Veegie · Post by **Veegie** » Mon Mar 29, 2004 8:53 pm

When its done :p