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turk645 · Post by **turk645** » Tue Sep 19, 2006 4:15 am

smacktalker wrote:halo 2 mutator.. i remember beta-ing this.

me too, heck i still have a copy of it. Too bad the one i have is still really buggy though.

DoorM4n · Post by **DoorM4n** » Tue Sep 19, 2006 4:21 am

ScottyGEE wrote:I totally do not understand why the name needs to be kept secret...

Maybe he doesn't want to be bugged....

xzodia · Post by **xzodia** » Tue Sep 19, 2006 7:33 am

i was got this for beta a while ago too, sent a load of suggestions for it and never got a reply

i thought i had been abbandoned

=sw=warlord · Post by **=sw=warlord** » Tue Sep 19, 2006 7:47 am

well the app me and zenaku were working on was in visual studio so yea seems its not the same which i am glad about and btw that comment about me rotting in hell im so sorry hell had no vacencies but this is the closest i could get to hell...

DWells55 · Post by **DWells55** » Tue Sep 19, 2006 10:54 am

Supa1337 wrote:
Monkey Terd wrote:Thats awesome! Mabye now I should look into getting a Mac..;p
just a theme

No, tunesrus runs a Mac. There's no Windows theme that good.

The reason this app is Multi-OS is because it's written in Java. Java requires its virtual machine to be installed. It runs on its own virtual processor, and as a result is too slow for stuff like writing games. We'll see how it fairs for this program.

Java has been ported to Mac, Windows, Linux, FreeBSD, and Unix based OS's. The FreeBSD install is a bit fo a pain though.

Boney526 · Post by **Boney526** » Tue Sep 19, 2006 11:51 am

Looks... great.

MasterChief2829 · Post by **MasterChief2829** » Tue Sep 19, 2006 3:19 pm

So why is this so special compared to the other editors?

Hawaiian Modder · Post by **Hawaiian Modder** » Tue Sep 19, 2006 3:28 pm

I'm guessing because its going to be a Universal-OS-Application. I'm just sad that it will be slow as a snail on a salt rug.

dfmjw · Post by **dfmjw** » Tue Sep 19, 2006 5:08 pm

i said before i won't want to hear java is shit, java is slow so on so on becuase that is tale which used to be true in the first few versions of java java is alot better now and it is saved but not proven lol that it can run faster than C applications becuase the runtime but like i said not proven and i don't believe it myself but lets not talk about the positives and negitives of programming languages if you want to start a new thread about that

regardless of my app's language it does seem to run faster than alot of other map editing applications but i have had to take a different approach to it to get it to run faster (buffers) i buffer almost anything i read for that very reason to increase speed no it does not use a masive amounts of memory i have kept the app running under 60mb of memory and no i don't buffer the whole map that is just silly.

i will admit the GUI is a bit slow it is noticable in component view meta editor (same kinda thing as entitys and dothalos meta editor)

Main Features:
IFP, ENT, XML, HM supported plugins reading and writing
Table View, Tree View, Component View (meta editors) so you have a few choices while editing your meta
Tag Exporting currently HM format, dothalo format, entity format (maybe out dated now)
Tag Importing will be the same support once i get it working
new Patch format Halo Mutator Dynamic Patch it is patch which is more dynamic size of patch will be small and allows for the creator to give the client (person patching there map) the option to select the tag the patch is install to and what chunkindex to do it to and what values to change to
Most OS's including xbox linux
very userfriendly
and there is more to come (i have so new and interesting ideas)

Note for past and present beta testers
please try and get in contact with me AIM, MSN, or email or talk to one of my regualarly contacted beta testers to get in contact with me and i will give you a rest update i have not given out a beta for a while becuase i had to go through a masive rebuild to give support for halo 1 and leaving room for halo 3 which i will want to support but very iffly if i can it will depend on how much it is like halo 1 and 2

DWells55 · Post by **DWells55** » Tue Sep 19, 2006 5:30 pm

I've coded in Java, for an application such as this, I do expect it to be slower that Entity, but it shouldn't be a big deal.

dfmjw · Post by **dfmjw** » Tue Sep 19, 2006 7:39 pm

DWells55 wrote:I've coded in Java, for an application such as this, I do expect it to be slower that Entity, but it shouldn't be a big deal.

in what way will it be slower i have talked and compared with poke tag extraction and proper chunk adding (including fixing reflexives) in mine out performs entity. well it did the only area where slowness maybe be a issue is the GUI. but fixing reflexives and scaning tags recurivsly is nothing it can all be done and very quickly

shadowkhas · Post by **shadowkhas** » Tue Sep 19, 2006 7:46 pm

I can verify that's a Mac...unless someone REALLY spent time putting in a wireless menulet, audio output menulet, and a fake Spotlight searcher menulet.

Can't wait for the program to be released!

Kirk · Post by **Kirk** » Tue Sep 19, 2006 8:09 pm

While you're at it, make it in flash!

xbox7887 · Post by **xbox7887** » Tue Sep 19, 2006 8:10 pm

HTML ftw! ;p

Doom · Post by **Doom** » Wed Sep 20, 2006 1:08 am

I know who you are dfmjw You silly You!

-Doom

DWells55 · Post by **DWells55** » Wed Sep 20, 2006 3:07 am

shadowkhas wrote:I can verify that's a Mac...unless someone REALLY spent time putting in a wireless menulet, audio output menulet, and a fake Spotlight searcher menulet.

Can't wait for the program to be released!

Yes, it's a Mac. tunesrus90 owns a Mac - old news.

slayer410 · Post by **slayer410** » Wed Sep 20, 2006 3:44 am

Make sure it can duplicate and rename tags. Also, drag and drop would be a nice addition.

GametagAeonFlux · Post by **GametagAeonFlux** » Wed Sep 20, 2006 9:51 am

Made in Java? Neat.

TunesRus90 · Post by **TunesRus90** » Wed Sep 20, 2006 1:05 pm

It is most definately running on mac. As Dwells55 and others have said, I use macs (for the most part, though I have a PC too). Also, in general Java may not be as fast as native languages, however, its not a big deal at all, the only slower part about this app is component GUI view which I don't even use. I usually use tree view. Also, for those of you who are saying that it doesn't offer anything new besides cross-platform, first of all, it uses many formats of plugins and is very easy to use. Also, you should be able to run this on your xbox if you have xbox linux, which means no FTPing and no computer necessary for modding.

Alchemist666 · Post by **Alchemist666** » Wed Sep 20, 2006 1:36 pm

any idea when this would be close to comming out

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