PDAs and Schools - Bringing Windows Mobile to the classroom

Dr.Cox · Post by **Dr.Cox** » Mon Sep 11, 2006 6:04 pm

checks mb? signing documents MB? FRICKING WRITING A SAVE ME MESSAGE IF TRAPED ON A ISLAND!!!! WITH NO PDA!!!!

JK-47 · Post by **JK-47** » Mon Sep 11, 2006 6:05 pm

Its not economic really.
Its not really efficiant cause you arent learning important writing skills if you have this autospeller doing everything for you like revising sentence fragments and whatnot.
And schoolwork is never exciting, even when we do get to use electronics.

Also, what happens when you drop your PDA in that big puddle right next to you, or some random dude jumps out of his car and tackles you down to the ground and punches your pocket with a hammer and leaves? (ok not going to happen, but the puddle part was serious).

But Essay papers don't fall apart, or glitch, or have technological problems.

Dr.Cox · Post by **Dr.Cox** » Mon Sep 11, 2006 6:08 pm

multi-genre wrote:Its not economic really.
Its not really efficiant cause you arent learning important writing skills if you have this autospeller doing everything for you like revising sentence fragments and whatnot.
And schoolwork is never exciting, even when we do get to use electronics.

Take that!!!!

You and your fancy PDA and School

and i didnt read it becuase i didnt want to waste time reading something stupid.

Plus what happens when u lose a pencil... you pay 50 cents and get a new one... what do u to when u lose you PDA??? you pay 300......... and now that 600+ down the drain. I win you lose... give me my goddamn cookie!

FleetAdmiralBacon · Post by **FleetAdmiralBacon** » Mon Sep 11, 2006 6:11 pm

multi-genre wrote:Its not economic really.
Its not really efficiant cause you arent learning important writing skills if you have this autospeller doing everything for you like revising sentence fragments and whatnot.
And schoolwork is never exciting, even when we do get to use electronics.

Also, what happens when you drop your PDA in that big puddle right next to you, or some random dude jumps out of his car and tackles you down to the ground and punches your pocket with a hammer and leaves? (ok not going to happen, but the puddle part was serious).

But Essay papers don't fall apart, or glitch, or have technological problems.

My PDA doesn't have a spellchecker... I had to download that...
And once again, it's FUCKING TOUCHSCREEN.
I WRITE ON MINE ALL THE TIME.
You're teacher can force you to write it, it's not that hard.
You're probably thinking I mean with a character recognizer, I DO NOT.
I'll give you an example, just give me a minute.

And wtf do you mean "it's not economic"?
DO YOU KNOW WHAT ECONOMIC MEANS?

avoiding waste or extravagance; thrifty: an economical meal; an economical use of interior space.

THEY ARE CHEAPER
THEY ARE BETTER
Therefore, THEY ARE MORE ECONOMIC THAN PAPER
Paper comes from tress, no more use of paper means that they are also ECOLOGICAL!
(yay! another e word)

Dr.Cox · Post by **Dr.Cox** » Mon Sep 11, 2006 6:13 pm

And how do they make your PSD!!!!!!

ANIMALs AND GNOMES THATS HOW!!!!

Plus what happens when u lose a pencil... you pay 50 cents and get a new one... what do u to when u lose you PDA??? you pay 300......... and now that 600+ down the drain. I win you lose... give me my goddamn cookie!

FleetAdmiralBacon · Post by **FleetAdmiralBacon** » Mon Sep 11, 2006 6:14 pm

How do they make my Adobe Photoshop Image Files?
Wow, I thought I made those in photoshop..
Next "downside" for me to disprove.

EDIT:
It's the ONLY FRAKKING THING YOU'LL BRING TO SCHOOL.
IF YOU ARE DUMB ENOUGH TO LOSE IT, YOU SHOULDN'T BE IN HIGH SCHOOL BUT RATHER RE-TAKING CLASSES FROM KINDERGARTEN

[cc]z@nd! · Post by **[cc]z@nd!** » Mon Sep 11, 2006 6:17 pm

if people are responsible, it should work great. but of course, there's always the one kid that ruins it for everyone. and although i don't want to seem like an arrogant techie, although it's true, computers and programs will not just glitch and do something wrong without the user doing something wrong. sure, there's the chance occasions where a PSU fails, or a stick of memory or HDD just gets old and dies.

oh, and with the wifi router in each room, that's just going to go all to hell. if your school has cement walls like mine, a router per 2 to 3 rooms should work fine (although my school's wifi is actually widespread everywhere. don't know much about the hardware, but the wifi is pretty well set up), but having a router per room will be interference hell. if the network admin doesn't knkow what he's doing and puts all the routers on channel 6, per say, nothing will get done.

Dr.Cox · Post by **Dr.Cox** » Mon Sep 11, 2006 6:19 pm

FleetAdmiralBacon wrote:How do they make my Adobe Photoshop Image Files?
Wow, I thought I made those in photoshop..
Next "downside" for me to disprove.

EDIT:
It's the ONLY FRAKKING THING YOU'LL BRING TO SCHOOL.
IF YOU ARE DUMB ENOUGH TO LOSE IT, YOU SHOULDN'T BE IN HIGH SCHOOL BUT RATHER RE-TAKING CLASSES FROM KINDERGARTEN

AND YOUR A FUCKING MORON!!!!!!! STILL YOU CAN STILL FREAKING LOSE IT AND HAVE IT GET STOLEN!!! GODDAMN THIS THREAD SHOULD BE LOCKED THIS IDEA HIS FRICKING STUPID....!!!!!! GAWD.... wheres my cookie?

FleetAdmiralBacon · Post by **FleetAdmiralBacon** » Mon Sep 11, 2006 6:23 pm

Thank you for your support.

I would like to say that if students pay for them (well, parents in most cases, but some parents are smart and understand the whole "if you pay for it, you'll have more respect for it" thing), less people will care less about them.

Our walls are cement bricks, but I can see a G/B router on the floor below me from my english class.

Fortunately, Windows Mobile is not like XP.
Microsoft actually didn't screw up with it. It's nearly perfect, giving users just enough, well, usability.
The system files are all protected because they are on the flash memory chip and will never be lost unless there is a mechanical problem.

And as they say, the only error in a debugged program is a user error.

Also, channels aren't valid for wireless routers. They do not interfere as much as something like a peer-to-peer wireless connection would. But hey, with 12 channels on most routers, it would be best to minimalize the crosstraffic.

EDIT:
@Armed Civilian:
SO CAN YOUR FREAKING BOOKS.
YOUR CAR.
YOUR HOUSE KEYS.
YOUR AGENDA
YOUR BACKPACK.
Most people steal something because they don't have one. The greater majority of people stealing stuff do not do it to sell it on eBay or something like that. If you get it stolen, it's your fault, you paid for it, you will get a new one.

Dr.Cox · Post by **Dr.Cox** » Mon Sep 11, 2006 6:29 pm

FleetAdmiralBacon wrote:
EDIT:
@Armed Civilian:
SO CAN YOUR FREAKING BOOKS.
YOUR CAR.
YOUR HOUSE KEYS.
YOUR AGENDA
YOUR BACKPACK.
Most people steal something because they don't have one. The greater majority of people stealing stuff do not do it to sell it on eBay or something like that. If you get it stolen, it's your fault, you paid for it, you will get a new one.

SO CAN YOUR FREAKING BOOKS.
YOUR AGENDA
YOUR BACKPACK.

yes and those things cost what??? 50-60$ together?

Phosphorous · Post by **Phosphorous** » Mon Sep 11, 2006 6:33 pm

k

(yeah, I stolored the image, sue me)

Dr.Cox · Post by **Dr.Cox** » Mon Sep 11, 2006 6:34 pm

FleetAdmiralBacon · Post by **FleetAdmiralBacon** » Mon Sep 11, 2006 8:02 pm

gah!
I'm allergic to chillitin!
daaaammmnn yooouu!!!

books - 50$ each
backpack - $50
agenda - $15
{sleep}

Cuda · Post by **Cuda** » Mon Sep 11, 2006 10:21 pm

Hah. I'm Getting a blackberry in a few weeks. Does all your stuff w/o windows, syncs with email, type, and send back home, and no kid dares to steal it

Dr.Cox · Post by **Dr.Cox** » Mon Sep 11, 2006 10:22 pm

Cuda wrote:Hah. I'm Getting a blackberry in a few weeks. Does all your stuff w/o windows, syncs with email, type, and send back home, and no kid dares to steal it

Blackberrys are as queer as they come cuda...

FleetAdmiralBacon · Post by **FleetAdmiralBacon** » Tue Sep 12, 2006 2:26 am

Sorry, one other thing I neglected to mention:
You can't put a password on your books.

Oh yeah, and Cuda: No. Just, no.

JK-47 · Post by **JK-47** » Tue Sep 12, 2006 7:38 am

FleetAdmiralBacon wrote:Sorry, one other thing I neglected to mention:
You can't put a password on your books.

Oh yeah, and Cuda: No. Just, no.

Books don't hold anything of uber importance other than what you have to do for the assignment. If someone takes my book, they cant shatter it by throwing it on the ground.

a mammoth · Post by **a mammoth** » Tue Sep 12, 2006 9:24 am

Meh I don't think its a good idea, maybe for a private school but not public, there are too many kids in public school that would break them, plus there are people that it would really strain their budget if you broke a 360 buck palm. But it would be a good idea for a private schools because parents don't send their kids to private schools to fail and be no good at life.

JK-47 · Post by **JK-47** » Tue Sep 12, 2006 10:10 am

FleetAdmiralBacon wrote:
multi-genre wrote:Its not economic really.
Its not really efficiant cause you arent learning important writing skills if you have this autospeller doing everything for you like revising sentence fragments and whatnot.
And schoolwork is never exciting, even when we do get to use electronics.

Also, what happens when you drop your PDA in that big puddle right next to you, or some random dude jumps out of his car and tackles you down to the ground and punches your pocket with a hammer and leaves? (ok not going to happen, but the puddle part was serious).

But Essay papers don't fall apart, or glitch, or have technological problems.
My PDA doesn't have a spellchecker... I had to download that...
And once again, it's **** TOUCHSCREEN.
I WRITE ON MINE ALL THE TIME.
You're teacher can force you to write it, it's not that hard.
You're probably thinking I mean with a character recognizer, I DO NOT.
I'll give you an example, just give me a minute.

And wtf do you mean "it's not economic"?
DO YOU KNOW WHAT ECONOMIC MEANS?

avoiding waste or extravagance; thrifty: an economical meal; an economical use of interior space.

THEY ARE CHEAPER
THEY ARE BETTER
Therefore, THEY ARE MORE ECONOMIC THAN PAPER
Paper comes from tress, no more use of paper means that they are also ECOLOGICAL!
(yay! another e word)

Yes I know what economic means.

Paper comes from a special type of tree, you can't go into the woods and cut down a pinetree and make paper out of it, you can't do that, the paper wouldn't be right.
They have special farms where they grow trees they use for paper.
PDA writing is a bit different, and its WAY slower than writing on paper, and I don't see how PDA's are cheaper than buying a pack of paper and a pencil for 2 bucks.

I can see how this would be a cool idea, but it just wouldn't work out as well as the old traditional way.

Grunt Rebel · Post by **Grunt Rebel** » Tue Sep 12, 2006 11:59 am

Screw the old fashioned way. I agree with FleetAdmiralBacon.