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Opera 9 owns you all.
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Opera is for little children who can't use something complexly amazing.
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rossmum wrote:I'm so used to IE I don't want to switch.

>_>

*runs the hell away from FF fanboys*
INFIDEL!!!!!


Actually it's not too different. I mean, it doesn't take more than a hour(probably much less) to figure out how to do everything you are used to in IE.

It has just about everything IE has* (activeX and major bugs exluded), and MUCH more. As said before, when I get my computer back, I'll make a post giving an in-depth look at what I like about firefox.
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Meh, it's a familiarity thing. I know the buttons, the layout, the features, and a few of the bugs too :P

My friends swear by Opera, it's OK but like I said, IE for me.
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rossmum wrote:Meh, it's a familiarity thing. I know the buttons, the layout, the features, and a few of the bugs too :P

My friends swear by Opera, it's OK but like I said, IE for me.
It's OK with me.(but you're still an infidel) :P
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xXAnubisXx wrote:Opera 9 owns you all.
The Staff owns you, you cheater :P



But IE is the Original. It doesn't need a ton of fancy little plugins to make a great beowser. :P
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original? nuh-uh. Netscape came before IE. And when netscape later released its code as open-source, Mozilla was born. And when Mozilla decided to split itself into 2 applications, we got Firefox and Thunderbird. Of course, if you want to get technical, there were also browsers before netscape. For more info, you can look on wikipedia


anyway, firefox is about the same as IE, when it doesn't have any extensions. The extensions I have allow Firefox to do things that IE simply can't do.






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Yeah but the good extensions that you can download should have been included in FireFox to begin with. Users themselves are the ones that made FireFox as good as it is... without extensions, FireFox is nothing.

As for me, I hate both FireFox and IE, as I mentioned before. Neither have what I want. What I want is extreme simplicity and all the tools I need in a nice, user-friendly experience. Neither FireFox (due to it's lack of features and incredibly difficult procedures) or IE (Due to it's hopeless lack of security and it's terrible features) have it.

EDIT: Lasers image he just edited in is the exact reason FireFox should not be used. Why should I have to go download 24+ extensions just to get the program working the way it should have been out of the box? Then I'm dealing with issues that the original software maker can't fix due to the fact it doesn't control the extensions and there are issues with one of them that compromises all of my work. Now, that may be an over-exaggerated example, but it is true nevertheless.

EDITx2: Oh, and don't even let me get started on Opera... The actual GUI of the program is atrocious. FireFox and IE were okay, but this is just too far. As for features, it's ridiculous. It's like BattleField 2 but worse. They try to cram too many features into a new program to try to make it ground breaking, but what they end up with is a complete failure since they tried to do too many things for one simple web browser. It's a web browser for gods sake. It's not supposed to be like this. It's supposed to be simple.
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Many of the extensions I use I wouldn't want to be integrated directly into firefox. I'm already leery of the fact that Firefox 2 is going to integrate a spellchecker.

What I love about firefox is that its so open to customization. What one person might think should've been included with the browser to begin with might be a feature another person wouldn't want.

As for stability, I've never had a single one of the above extensions cause problems.


Extension explanations.

Adblock - gets rid of banner ads and the like, blocks images, iframes, and swfs from known ad sources.

Add N Edit Cookies - Allows easy editing of cookies and their expiration dates. Very useful for troubleshooting a website. Can also be used to get a site without the "remember me" option to remember you.

All in one sidebar - Ok, this one should have been integrated into the browser. It allows quick-sidebar access to extensions, themes, downloads, history, etc

Colorful Tabs - Give color to your tabs

Colorzilla - A handy little color picker that can copy a color to the clipboard(in hex, or whatever you want)

dAmn XPcom - Enhances the deviantArt chat system

DeviantCopyandPaste - Allows easy right-click access to copying a deviantart thumbnail in :thumb######: format.

Deviantmessage - handy little message alerts from deviantart down on the statusbar

FireFTP - Useful FTP client

Forcastfox - Provides a weather forcast

Greasemonkey - Allows user-made scripts which can add functionality to any website. Very useful, won't go into details at the moment.

IE Tab - Opens a tab which will render a site with the IE engine, allowing quick access to IE only sites (note: will probably crash on whatever would normally make IE crash)

Imagebot - Allows mass uploading to imageshack, and can keep track of images on multiple accounts.

MR tech blah blah - Disable the 5 seconds delay when installing a new extension(originally in place to protect the user from being tricked into installing stuff i guess)

Nightly Tester Tools - Enables the installation of extensions which aren't guaranteed to be compatible with your version of firefox

refspoof - allows you to feed sites custom referers

Resizable textarea - allows drag resizing of textareas

Server spy - tells you what the server of the website you are viewing is running

ShowIP - Tells you the IP of the current website

Toolbar buttons - adds assorted buttons

Toolbar extras - ^ same

User Agent Switcher - Feeds sites custom user agents, used to fake your browser, allowing access to sites which discriminate

View Source Chart - Enhances the way you view the HTML source

Web Developer - My favorite. Whether you want to test every possible aspect of a site, or jerry-rig the Sci-Fi.com bulletin boards so that you have admin-like abilities*, it's great.

*(they fixed the bugs I used to exploit, so don't bother)


I consider all of the extensions I have installed to be very good extensions, but only one or two of them I think would be better integrated.



Another thing. I'm using a portable version of firefox. I can take the entire browser, extensions, bookmarks, plugins and all, with me on a usb drive ^_^



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I've tried just about every browser, with the exception of the mac only ones, and I'd have to say, Firefox is my favorite.


EDIT: About the llama. I used Web Developer to do it.
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That UI is so crowded it hurts my eyes. >_>
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i like firefox because, not only is it free, but it's simple out-of-the-box, and if i want it to do more, i download an extension. for example, Avgerage joe can easily use firefox for all he needs to (browse the web) without extra extensions he'll never use. power users (like me) can take out the extra time to download an extension and customize their browser.

and yeah, you also forget torpark. based off mozilla, yet using the onion-ring proxy group used by Tor, it provides easy to use anonymous surfing (although sorta slow) that easily fits on a USB drive once installed. in fact, i use it at school and it successfully bypasses their firewall, so i can surf wherever i want without their restrictions, although it's slow because of the multiple proxys.
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thank you for showing all those awesome plugins, the web developer one is actually very usefull so I can test new css sheets and things easily. THis is great for anyone who has a website and is constantly updating/changing it.
I found a cool plugin, it's called gnafi. If you wanna find a page quickly and easily, type what you want in the address bar and it will find it. Like type in halo in the adress bar and it'll goto bungie.net, halo mods it'll goto halomods.com

It's awesome, another cool one to have is foxy tunes, it lets you control itunes volume, skip songs, and pause itunes withing firefox! I <3 firefox
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[cc]z@nd! wrote:and yeah, you also forget torpark. based off mozilla, yet using the onion-ring proxy group used by Tor, it provides easy to use anonymous surfing (although sorta slow) that easily fits on a USB drive once installed. in fact, i use it at school and it successfully bypasses their firewall, so i can surf wherever i want without their restrictions, although it's slow because of the multiple proxys.
lucky you. I'm yet to find a single proxy that my school doesn't have blocked through their "websense" subscription. Now I just use remote desktop to get by it.
rossmum wrote:That UI is so crowded it hurts my eyes. >_>
I prefer the term compact. I'm using the miniFoxFlat theme. It takes out all the spacing between just about everything. I love it that way. :mrgreen:
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-Laser- wrote:lucky you. I'm yet to find a single proxy that my school doesn't have blocked through their "websense" subscription. Now I just use remote desktop to get by it.
yeah, my school's blocked a bunch of web proxys too, but torpark still works because the proxies it uses aren't webproxys that tons of people go to. my school hasn't blocked it yet, so it must be farily underground-ish.

in fact, i think i might post a tutorial here on getting past web filtering... not to hijack this topic, but what do you guys think?
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I like fire fox, ty for that list laser!
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The iTunes control thing would be 200% useless for me, I can do all that through my keyboard...

And I'll rephrase then, that COMPACT UI is so crowded it hurts my eyes. :P
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I used to use SeaMonkey, but then went back to FF.
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-Laser- wrote:Many of the extensions I use I wouldn't want to be integrated directly into firefox. I'm already leery of the fact that Firefox 2 is going to integrate a spellchecker.

What I love about firefox is that its so open to customization. What one person might think should've been included with the browser to begin with might be a feature another person wouldn't want.

As for stability, I've never had a single one of the above extensions cause problems.


Extension explanations.

Adblock - gets rid of banner ads and the like, blocks images, iframes, and swfs from known ad sources.

Add N Edit Cookies - Allows easy editing of cookies and their expiration dates. Very useful for troubleshooting a website. Can also be used to get a site without the "remember me" option to remember you.

All in one sidebar - Ok, this one should have been integrated into the browser. It allows quick-sidebar access to extensions, themes, downloads, history, etc

Colorful Tabs - Give color to your tabs

Colorzilla - A handy little color picker that can copy a color to the clipboard(in hex, or whatever you want)

dAmn XPcom - Enhances the deviantArt chat system

DeviantCopyandPaste - Allows easy right-click access to copying a deviantart thumbnail in :thumb######: format.

Deviantmessage - handy little message alerts from deviantart down on the statusbar

FireFTP - Useful FTP client

Forcastfox - Provides a weather forcast

Greasemonkey - Allows user-made scripts which can add functionality to any website. Very useful, won't go into details at the moment.

IE Tab - Opens a tab which will render a site with the IE engine, allowing quick access to IE only sites (note: will probably crash on whatever would normally make IE crash)

Imagebot - Allows mass uploading to imageshack, and can keep track of images on multiple accounts.

MR tech blah blah - Disable the 5 seconds delay when installing a new extension(originally in place to protect the user from being tricked into installing stuff i guess)

Nightly Tester Tools - Enables the installation of extensions which aren't guaranteed to be compatible with your version of firefox

refspoof - allows you to feed sites custom referers

Resizable textarea - allows drag resizing of textareas

Server spy - tells you what the server of the website you are viewing is running

ShowIP - Tells you the IP of the current website

Toolbar buttons - adds assorted buttons

Toolbar extras - ^ same

User Agent Switcher - Feeds sites custom user agents, used to fake your browser, allowing access to sites which discriminate

View Source Chart - Enhances the way you view the HTML source

Web Developer - My favorite. Whether you want to test every possible aspect of a site, or jerry-rig the Sci-Fi.com bulletin boards so that you have admin-like abilities*, it's great.

*(they fixed the bugs I used to exploit, so don't bother)


I consider all of the extensions I have installed to be very good extensions, but only one or two of them I think would be better integrated.



Another thing. I'm using a portable version of firefox. I can take the entire browser, extensions, bookmarks, plugins and all, with me on a usb drive ^_^



oh, and a shot of my firefox
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I've tried just about every browser, with the exception of the mac only ones, and I'd have to say, Firefox is my favorite.


EDIT: About the llama. I used Web Developer to do it.

how do you get the WINDOWS XP window bar shiney at the top, like mine is just normal.. :?
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MaestroMan wrote:how do you get the WINDOWS XP window bar shiney at the top, like mine is just normal.. :?
Well the theme I'm currently using is the windows media center theme. But I am capable of using other themes, ones that aren't made by microsoft

http://www.neowin.net/forum/index.php?showtopic=140707/

^there you can get the patch to get windows to allow extra themes

http://themes.belchfire.net/index.php?dlcategory=1
and theres a great site for themes

my UI on my desktop computer is cooler. I even made a theme/"visual style" once. It was sci-fi themed.

http://mboard.scifi.com/showflat.php?Ca ... er=1210187
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