Email to Bungie

[DarkMetal]

Hey all, I sent an email to bungie. I'm sure I won't get a reply, but hey, what the hell I sent it anyways. Here is what I said:

[quote="I"]Hello,
I have a few questions for you guys at Bungie. Let me tell you in advance, these questions are about modding,
so delete it now if you don

[xXxCocoFangxXx]

I hope someone writes you back.

[killingforfun]

Ya, i do too. it never ceases to amaze me how they keep talkin about hating cheaters who mess around in mm, but they ban ppl who just do stuff in custom gamse.

[x088x]

You have good intentions, but you didn't write your email very well. You should have asked them their stance on offline modding and the halo 2 modding community: not about modding custom games online. Their autoupdate detects any modified content, whether you are going to play customs or matchmaking.

[killingforfun]

We are quite aware of that.... and we dont need to know about their view on offline modding...

[DarkMetal]

It's pretty clear what their stance is on offline modding: they don't care.
It's pretty obvious that modding is looked down upon, whether it's good or bad.

[Crowbar Jack]

i agree with darkmetal.. i derno if i shuold say this or not but i went on live with mods on.. ONLY IN CUSTOM GAMES
i dont belve in that cheating bullhsit so ya i hope i dont get banned from the site for sayin that.. i got banned from mm 2 hrs later

[Scoliosis]

bungie will never listen to these emails or these videos that we are sending. It seems you guys dont understand that BUNGIE DOESNT CARE about how we mod. what they care about is that we are modding in general. There is no game company that will condone modding of its game. For example, take your halo 2 instruction book and turn to page 33. at about the middle of the page it will say something like this...

unathorized copying, reverse engineering, transmission, public proformance, rental, pay for play, or circumvention of copy protection is strictly prohibited.

reverse engineering

this statement is why they are banning modders of any kind. When we mod, we reverse engineer this game. Call it what you want (modding, improvements, enhancements etc) its still not allowed and all the emails and videos in the world will NEVER change their minds so stop trying and save your energy.

[Tural]

Another question is why do these modders
get banned for modding only in custom games?

That's where the email's intellegence dropped off, severely.

[Scoliosis]

i wouldnt say that it lost in intellegence but rather was it was a waste of time. DarkMetal you had good intentions and its good to see you are standing up for the community but they will never let us on live. They will ban us without a second thought. besides XBC is way cooler.

[r0tten]

Another question is why do these modders
get banned for modding only in custom games?

That's where the email's intellegence dropped off, severely.

completely agree, for a second i thought this would be an intelligent email with well thought out points of views, but no, just another kid not reading his xbl user agreement. rules are rules, thats why we have xbc and x link kai so we can play how and what we want. that email was a waste of time, sorry.

[Crowbar Jack]

pshh u guys are a**holes it wasnt a wsate of time..NOTHING IMPOSSIBLE as korny as that may sound..I have a dream that one day Bungie and Halomods will walk hand-in hand lol well it was worth a try thats all i can say

[Aequitas]

Playing any kind of modded content on XBL is againt the it's terms or service, so.. Getting banned from Halo 2 matchmaking is a slap on the wrist, considering they'd be well within their rights to keep your money and cancel your Live subscription.

[Scoliosis]

I have a dream too, that one day rabid bears and infants will walk hand in hand as well, but its never gonna happen.

Playing any kind of modded content on XBL is againt the it's terms or service, so.. Getting banned from Halo 2 matchmaking is a slap on the wrist, considering they'd be well within their rights to keep your money and cancel your Live subscription.

your right they are within their rights. They are also within their rights to screw up the xbox. just lookit this website

http://forums.xbox-scene.com/index.php?showtopic=8773

Their rules will never change. so lets recap

emails, videos, messages, phone calls (if you seriously have the nerve) are a waste of breath and energy. they dont listen. These things go unanswered.

if you still cannot comprehend why they ban you from XBL for mods ill say it one more time...

unathorized copying, reverse engineering, transmission, public proformance, rental, pay for play, or circumvention of copy protection is strictly prohibited.

and another excellent point by one of the communities members

Playing any kind of modded content on XBL is againt it's terms of service...

So please stop wasting precious forum space on these POINTLESS topics.

[Tural]

u guys are a**holes

Stop flaming, flamer.

[Excal]

Yeah, chill out guys.

[Crowbar Jack]

i wasnt exactly flamming i was just sticking up for Darkmetal

u guys are being so negative about it (sorry i lost my temper) but still Darkmetal took some tim and effort to Email them i think we should appreciate it whether it has any effects or not o and by the way Tural if i called you a St

[Tural]

You called us assholes, explain how that isn't flaming, please.

[Scoliosis]

u guys are being so negative about it...

The Following statement is not being negative, its stating fact:

Playing any kind of modded content on XBL is againt the it's terms or service

The following statement is not being negative towards Darkmetal:

DarkMetal you had good intentions and its good to see you are standing up for the community but they will never let us on live

true he took the time to write the email but it was poorly thought out. You shouldn't have asked something like why are modders, who make custom maps and scenarios for the enjoyment of others, punished the same way as modders who use the ability to alter the game for negative purposes? Saying something like this would have made it sound a bit more professional. However it still wouldnt alter the fact it was a waste of time. I will show you how far they got into reading this email before it was deleted...

I have a few questions for you guys at Bungie. Let me tell you in advance, these questions are about modding,
so delete it now if you don

[Kamatzu]

Modding violates the Xbox Live terms of service, which you agree to when making a gamertag.