little bit of help

PlasmaGhost · Post by **PlasmaGhost** » Mon May 22, 2006 2:42 pm

well im pretty sure this is legal but if its not then i would need a mod to delete this and im sorry

im trying to get a good disassembler for C++. im pretty sure its Visual C++ 6. i would say what its for but im afraid somebody might take my idea.

and just on a note, i dont plan to ever disassemble anyone's programs on halomods, halomaps, or any other modding site.

so if anyone could help me get a program capable of this then please post a link here.

i tried IDA Pro 5 but i couldnt figure out how to view the source in the demo so i found no reason to buy it

Patrickssj6 · Post by **Patrickssj6** » Mon May 22, 2006 3:15 pm

You mean reverse the code?Like getting the code out of an exe file?

live2board · Post by **live2board** » Mon May 22, 2006 3:22 pm

You can't get the source code out of a C++ executable file. The compiler turns all the variables into var1, var2, etc. IDA Disassembler will just let you view the hex/assembly code.

Patrickssj6 · Post by **Patrickssj6** » Mon May 22, 2006 3:31 pm

I saw one.It converts the code to a very rare used programm language I can't remember but I worked.

PlasmaGhost · Post by **PlasmaGhost** » Mon May 22, 2006 3:54 pm

yea i mean get the code outta an exe. ill b willing to learn any language for it

Tural · Post by **Tural** » Wed May 24, 2006 9:14 pm

Decompilers are meant to be used to disassemble your own code. It is illegal to decompile an application without the creator's consent.

Kurroda · Post by **Kurroda** » Thu May 25, 2006 4:30 am

They dont work good i have to add to there are really expensive ones that dont even work good.

PlasmaGhost · Post by **PlasmaGhost** » Thu May 25, 2006 3:57 pm

oh well that sucks...

well my idea was to edit sapien and guerilla to make some long processes alot easier

ugly-nerd · Post by **ugly-nerd** » Sat Jun 03, 2006 12:46 pm

You can use SoftICE or OllyDBG to view what it is doing. Then you can write your own code.

PlasmaGhost · Post by **PlasmaGhost** » Sun Jun 04, 2006 2:12 pm

isnt it OllyDBG?

ugly-nerd · Post by **ugly-nerd** » Tue Jun 06, 2006 5:30 pm

yeah by bad

Jefff · Post by **Jefff** » Wed Jun 07, 2006 6:28 pm

Tural wrote:Decompilers are meant to be used to disassemble your own code. It is illegal to decompile an application without the creator's consent.

Not quite. Under 1201 (f) of the DMCA you can reverse engineer software if it was legally obtained and you're doing it for analization, not to steal it, remove serial protection, etc.

To quote the first part of 1201 (f) of the DMCA:

The Digital Millennium Copyright Act Section 1201 (f) wrote:Notwithstanding the provisions of subsection (a)(1)(A), a person who has lawfully obtained the right to use a copy of a computer program may circumvent a technological measure that effectively controls access to a particular portion of that program for the sole purpose of identifying and analyzing those elements of the program that are necessary to achieve interoperability of an independently created computer program with other programs, and that have not previously been readily available to the person engaging in the circumvention, to the extent any such acts of identification and analysis do not constitute infringement under this title.

Of course, this only applies to the US.

Monkey Terd · Post by **Monkey Terd** » Wed Jun 07, 2006 6:56 pm

Jefff lives

Tural · Post by **Tural** » Thu Jun 08, 2006 7:01 pm

That applies to viewing and analyzing, he wants to modify it, which I am pretty sure is, in fact, illegal.

Jefff · Post by **Jefff** » Fri Jun 09, 2006 3:56 am

I believe it falls under the same catagory. It's legal if you don't intent to crack it, illegally distribute it, etc.

Kurroda · Post by **Kurroda** » Fri Jun 09, 2006 9:44 am

It is illegal to modify its not illegal to analyze. Point is the decomiplers suck so its a waist of time just forget about.

TfAv1228 · Post by **TfAv1228** » Fri Jun 09, 2006 10:32 am

decompilers actually work very well if you get a good one yes it is retarded to dissassemble for any other reason than to learn but there are several good ones

BTW to find good ones search for reflectors instead of dissassemblers or decompilers

VoiDeD · Post by **VoiDeD** » Fri Jun 09, 2006 1:45 pm

Reflectors are for managed code.

From what I've seen you can't decompile a C++ program back into source code, only assembly.