[MOD/TUT] Fixing systemlink 100% proper

looknbarrel · Post by **looknbarrel** » Mon May 22, 2006 2:16 pm

I agree this fixes system link but the whole procedure seems sloppy to me and wouldn't you have to have good memory or like a list of tags that you changed the meta offset to? Also what tags don't work and break system link compatibility with adding chunks to predicted resources because it's worked fine for me.

Shalted · Post by **Shalted** » Mon May 22, 2006 2:18 pm

ScottyGEE wrote:I wouldnt say 100% proper...This method creates holes doesnt it? Coz your changing reference to something but leaving the other one unreferenced (eg the banshee_gun.weap like in biohazard)
Well thats what I thought it does.

You're right it does create holes, so technically this isn't 100% proper. But the tutorial is well done.

xheadshotmastax · Post by **xheadshotmastax** » Mon May 22, 2006 2:19 pm

Shalted wrote:
ScottyGEE wrote:I wouldnt say 100% proper...This method creates holes doesnt it? Coz your changing reference to something but leaving the other one unreferenced (eg the banshee_gun.weap like in biohazard)
Well thats what I thought it does.
You're right it does create holes, so technically this isn't 100% proper. But the tutorial is well done.

so should i rename the title to "95% proper"

?

Snaku · Post by **Snaku** » Mon May 22, 2006 2:20 pm

It leaves the other thing unreferenced, but that's not a problem since only things that actually spawn mess up SLC.
Yeah it's kinda' sloppy, but personally that's why I like it so much.
And you could have a good memory... OR... you could rename the tags.

LuxuriousMeat · Post by **LuxuriousMeat** » Mon May 22, 2006 2:23 pm

LuxuriousMeat wrote:couldnt you not waste a tag and just duplicate a tag for it

xheadshotmastax · Post by **xheadshotmastax** » Mon May 22, 2006 2:25 pm

LuxuriousMeat wrote:
LuxuriousMeat wrote:couldnt you not waste a tag and just duplicate a tag for it

a duplicated tag brakes slc ,too.
injecting and duplicating is technically the same.
sorry for overlooking your post though.

LuxuriousMeat · Post by **LuxuriousMeat** » Mon May 22, 2006 2:26 pm

o ok thanks for the info

SerpentKnights · Post by **SerpentKnights** » Mon May 22, 2006 2:31 pm

good job xheadshotmastax and flyingdutchman

Skayter · Post by **Skayter** » Mon May 22, 2006 2:36 pm

Whenever I use build my map always freezes on the setting up game blue label thing... Well i did build in 10 tags without sounds could that be the problem?

And BTW Great tut!

TunesRus90 · Post by **TunesRus90** » Mon May 22, 2006 4:18 pm

Yeah this worked great for Echo Station. And although it seems kinda "sloppy" as some may say, you can't argue with the results.

t_mann05 · Post by **t_mann05** » Mon May 22, 2006 8:06 pm

So it would be a good idea to fix all the tags right after you inject them right? and before you spawn the items?

Would i have to fix this tag in a scarab?

\objects\weapons\pistol\plasma_pistol\damage_effects\plasma_pistol_overcharged.jpt!

Or only tags with the mach\scarab in them?

The Flying Dutchmen · Post by **The Flying Dutchmen** » Tue May 23, 2006 1:36 am

TunesRus90 wrote:you can't argue with the results.

Although it might be sloppy, i prefer using meta fake in stead of predicted resources.. i have had major problems trying to fix slc with just the predicted resources..
It works everytime for me when i fix a map, and enough maps have been fixed using this method.. so i guess holes or sloppyness don't matter that much to me..
i suggest finishing your map, before fixing systemlink..no need for systemlink while your map is in beta.
t_mann_05 check up on the systemlinkbreaking tags being injected.. pp.jpt is already in the map i think.. and btw scarab got ALOT of breaking tags coming along...

greennc · Post by **greennc** » Tue May 23, 2006 2:46 am

great work xheadshotmastax and The Flying Dutchmen i give this a read tonight

t_mann05 · Post by **t_mann05** » Tue May 23, 2006 5:32 pm

Well for my map i need to fix about 40 SLC tag breakers in dothalo.....would it be possible to use that many tags to fix? What are some tags that are not used....my map is a bsp for waterworks..

thanks in advance!

IRONMAN. · Post by **IRONMAN.** » Wed May 24, 2006 3:53 pm

Thats a good question, I was wondering the same thing. I was thinking about going back and fixing SLC for an old mod I made. And I couldt think of that many unused tags.

t_mann05 · Post by **t_mann05** » Wed May 24, 2006 3:58 pm

thanks IRONMAN for posting so i dont double post

Another question about this.......i hope someone answers

i already copied And pasted new metas for 5 flak/canNon tags with tags in the map...

If i swap out the weap/flak_cannon jpt! tag for a fixed unused proj tag, then the weap/flak_cannon will have 2 proj tags............i dont think that would work would it?

THE-MASTER · Post by **THE-MASTER** » Thu May 25, 2006 1:49 am

I have a problem with this, not the tut I think its really good and not too sloppy! My map Zephyr Zanzibar already has 4 machs spawned on the map. How do I make this SLC?

Thanks

The Flying Dutchmen · Post by **The Flying Dutchmen** » Thu May 25, 2006 2:10 am

THE-MASTER wrote:How do I make this SLC?
Thanks

read the tut.. apply meta fake to the tags.. and reference the meta faked tags

if i swap out the weap/flak_cannon jpt! tag for a fixed unused proj tag, then the weap/flak_cannon will have 2 proj tags............i dont think that would work would it?

it doesnt matter which tag you reference, as long as you are sure the tag is meta faked.. 2 proj tags wouldnt matter

Snaku · Post by **Snaku** » Thu May 25, 2006 5:07 am

For those who have a ton of added things and not enough unused stuff to meta fake, I would suggest using predicted resources for as many as you can, and whichever ones decide not to work, meta fake 'em. To do this, you'd obviously wanna' only add a few spawns at a time to make it easier to figure out which ones don't work.

THE-MASTER · Post by **THE-MASTER** » Thu May 25, 2006 5:29 am

The Flying Dutchmen wrote:
THE-MASTER wrote:How do I make this SLC?
Thanks
read the tut.. apply meta fake to the tags.. and reference the meta faked tags

if i swap out the weap/flak_cannon jpt! tag for a fixed unused proj tag, then the weap/flak_cannon will have 2 proj tags............i dont think that would work would it?
it doesnt matter which tag you reference, as long as you are sure the tag is meta faked.. 2 proj tags wouldnt matter

I have read the tut

I asked how I meta fake with machines as all the machines on the map are used. I changed the meta of the mach with the banshee weapon and dont know what to do after this...

As you can see

The-Master wrote: My map Zephyr Zanzibar

Already has the machs spawned so how can I fake meta them without having to replace their spawns??

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