[Halo 2] Entity Alpha 1

casuela · Post by **casuela** » Wed May 03, 2006 1:31 pm

Yeah it is kinda too big.

-cas

MasterChief2829 · Post by **MasterChief2829** » Wed May 03, 2006 2:03 pm

Then Vehicle Based Combat it is. Kinda like a mini coldsnap.

Except different. I'll still had random obstacles around the map and such.

xzodia · Post by **xzodia** » Wed May 03, 2006 2:33 pm

thats big and perfect for snaku's mod...i think ill do this as well...if only for snaku's mod...

Benjyp · Post by **Benjyp** » Wed May 03, 2006 2:36 pm

mm-IRONMAN wrote:
supercoolguy117 wrote:you cant span it if you dont have a spawn on the bsp
Hes right, jsut some back up. If your in the new BSP, the spawns of the old stuff are gonna be on coordinates of the old BSP, it would be IMPOSSIBLE to find the old stuff. So basically the hardest part about convering a BSP is finding a spawn point, and the new bsp has some crazy spawn point numbers...goes into the 1000's

Im not sure if anyones already addressed this, but would it not be possible to make sure you have everything checked in the bsp viewer and use the "move all spawns here" tool?

xzodia · Post by **xzodia** » Wed May 03, 2006 2:42 pm

Benjyp wrote:
mm-IRONMAN wrote:
supercoolguy117 wrote:you cant span it if you dont have a spawn on the bsp
Hes right, jsut some back up. If your in the new BSP, the spawns of the old stuff are gonna be on coordinates of the old BSP, it would be IMPOSSIBLE to find the old stuff. So basically the hardest part about convering a BSP is finding a spawn point, and the new bsp has some crazy spawn point numbers...goes into the 1000's
Im not sure if anyones already addressed this, but would it not be possible to make sure you have everything checked in the bsp viewer and use the "move all spawns here" tool?

how would that work exactly?

Benjyp · Post by **Benjyp** » Wed May 03, 2006 3:14 pm

MasterChief2829 wrote:
Spammy wrote:Well MC2829, my design is completely different. You won't even be able to reach the areas outlined as bases and whatnot on your design schematic there. So, good luck and hope to see some good mods, not just from this BSP.

On a note related to this BSP, I never realized that those machs(the antenna things) were spawned through the BSP. Makes it annoying trying to place things on them when you can't see them in the BSP viewer...
I said that is not where the bases will be it's just to show you what it will be like. IT WILL CHANGE No doubt. That was just to give you a feel of what it will be like. Many things will be definatley moved and added and junk. That is not how I plan on laying out everything. I just quickly made that to get an idea about where to put things. It's not even poportional. To be honest I'm just guessing, it could be a lot larger or smaller than I imagine (however I will be adding a few things and testing today to see the actual size of this. )I'm guessing it's pretty large though since someone was just going to convert the inside of that what looks tiny on that pic (the place that's in the bottum left corner). So we'll see. I will be adding many more things and that is in no way going to be the final.

so does this map fit on gemini? from what i hear its huuuuuuuuge?

on another note:
and to move all of the spawn locations select one spawn point from the old bsp, move it over the new bsp, make sure everything you need is checked under the "visible spawns" drop down box and then hit the "edit" box and select "move all spawns here.

x088x · Post by **x088x** » Wed May 03, 2006 3:55 pm

You've heard right. I just converted it, and wow. I am astounded at how big it is. I just don't know what to do with it. It's so big, I don't even see how it could be fun, even with 16 people.

MasterChief2829 · Post by **MasterChief2829** » Wed May 03, 2006 4:41 pm

Benjyp wrote:
MasterChief2829 wrote:
Spammy wrote:Well MC2829, my design is completely different. You won't even be able to reach the areas outlined as bases and whatnot on your design schematic there. So, good luck and hope to see some good mods, not just from this BSP.

On a note related to this BSP, I never realized that those machs(the antenna things) were spawned through the BSP. Makes it annoying trying to place things on them when you can't see them in the BSP viewer...
I said that is not where the bases will be it's just to show you what it will be like. IT WILL CHANGE No doubt. That was just to give you a feel of what it will be like. Many things will be definatley moved and added and junk. That is not how I plan on laying out everything. I just quickly made that to get an idea about where to put things. It's not even poportional. To be honest I'm just guessing, it could be a lot larger or smaller than I imagine (however I will be adding a few things and testing today to see the actual size of this. )I'm guessing it's pretty large though since someone was just going to convert the inside of that what looks tiny on that pic (the place that's in the bottum left corner). So we'll see. I will be adding many more things and that is in no way going to be the final.
so does this map fit on gemini? from what i hear its huuuuuuuuge?

on another note:
and to move all of the spawn locations select one spawn point from the old bsp, move it over the new bsp, make sure everything you need is checked under the "visible spawns" drop down box and then hit the "edit" box and select "move all spawns here.

Yeah. It fits in Waterworks too.

xheadshotmastax · Post by **xheadshotmastax** » Wed May 03, 2006 5:01 pm

pokecancer wrote:
And seriously people don't cry if someone else is doing the same level as you. If you did good, your mod will stand out anyways.

keep that in mind guys

Samusaaron3 · Post by **Samusaaron3** » Wed May 03, 2006 5:41 pm

Anyone else get annoying sounds playing ingame after doing a conversion?

It sounds like someone on a typewriter.

Zigen · Post by **Zigen** » Wed May 03, 2006 5:43 pm

Monkey Terd wrote:Converting a new bsp is not a drag and drop process guys!!!
look heres the easiest tutorial ever on how to do it in Entity Alpha.
Open sp map.(Im using metropolis as an ex.)
Open gemini.
Check parse and recursive in metropolis(sp map).
After you checked both boxes go to the bsp tag and click the bsp/blah/blah/efwe4g
Then click save and save it anywhere you want.
Once your done saving go back to gemini and click build at the bottom right.
Then you click the .info file of the bsp you just extracted.
Once youve clicked build and w/e you just now converted the bsp. Congrats

Written by zigen

***SIGH***

MasterChief2829 · Post by **MasterChief2829** » Wed May 03, 2006 6:01 pm

xheadshotmastax wrote:
pokecancer wrote:
And seriously people don't cry if someone else is doing the same level as you. If you did good, your mod will stand out anyways.
keep that in mind guys

Not if they copy your exact ideas.

Who cares if they use the same bsp though, a lot of people will. It's like modding a Halo 2 Map. You can't be mad at someone for modding coagulation. BSP Conversions are like new maps and you can't be mad at them for modding their own version.

Capta1n_Insan1ty · Post by **Capta1n_Insan1ty** » Wed May 03, 2006 6:09 pm

super good program man i like it a lot. good work

http://www.watertastesgood.com/download ... 346c0495c8

DoorM4n · Post by **DoorM4n** » Wed May 03, 2006 6:40 pm

Look at all this spam. Then look at my post!

Snaku · Post by **Snaku** » Wed May 03, 2006 7:20 pm

Spammy wrote:On a note related to this BSP, I never realized that those machs(the antenna things) were spawned through the BSP. Makes it annoying trying to place things on them when you can't see them in the BSP viewer...

Has anyone figured out a way to access machs or scens and stuff that are spawned through the BSP? Like to make it draggable into other maps and spawned like normal.

xzodia wrote:thats big and perfect for snaku's mod...i think ill do this as well...if only for snaku's mod...

Nice to know you're looking out for me, man. I've been so focused on making vehicle mods (I wonder if I can attach a small mach or two onto the bottom of a pelican to make it able to land on the ground without flipping) to really concern myself with bsp conversion. I just hope some good ones get released in a modable state.
Also, stupid question, I guess, but dragging a bsp into gemini still leaves you with a map you can't open in Insolence, right? Just wondering why so many people are using Gemini instead of waterworks.

t_mann05 · Post by **t_mann05** » Wed May 03, 2006 7:28 pm

The Flying Dutchmen wrote:wow i just found out something interesting... clone 20 chunks on the netgame equipment of Gemini scnr tag and you can open it in insolence... why?

and it also works on Dune.. add 5 chunks and you can open it in insolence..

Snaku if you do that^^ you should be able to open it in insolence.

D0NTT CARE · Post by **D0NTT CARE** » Wed May 03, 2006 8:00 pm

Eh for the larger bsp's i would suggest increasing the running speed a little tiny bit..

~SkiLLs4KiLLs~ · Post by **~SkiLLs4KiLLs~** » Wed May 03, 2006 8:07 pm

Anyone know why
A) I dont spawn and the screen is black
B) I spawn but i cant move

I think it is because of the spawns, here are some pictures;

Thanks

x088x · Post by **x088x** » Wed May 03, 2006 8:10 pm

What BSP is that Skills?

llama_juice · Post by **llama_juice** » Wed May 03, 2006 8:10 pm

whoa... what map is that?

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