[Halo 2] Pointer Tool V4 and a SP->MP tutorial!

Spammy · Post by **Spammy** » Wed Apr 19, 2006 5:00 pm

Yeah I've had that problem too. I don't know why it does that. I don't think you did anyhing wrong as it works fine when I converted the mainmenu BSP with the same steps. I'd like to see if Pointer Tool 3.5 would fix the Raw without freezing but I deleted my copy thinking I wouldn't need it with V4.0.

If anyone has a copy of Pointer Tool version 3.5, could you send it to me?

Shalted · Post by **Shalted** » Wed Apr 19, 2006 5:03 pm

XxSilencedDeathxX wrote:
Spammy wrote:Not the Raw, the BSP meta. Then use the autofixer for the raw.
I do it in this order:

Import missing tags, inject bsp meta, fix size and magic, and than use the auto fixer. When I press fix, everything is filled out correctly, and it freezes. I lfet it on for about 5 hours and still nothing. Do you know what I did wrong if anything?

I think the problem maybe Insolence, It's trashed some of the model data in my maps, and I think it may be trashing some Mode meta. My program uses the Mode Meta to see where to inject the BSP raw.

mm-IRONMAN · Post by **mm-IRONMAN** » Wed Apr 19, 2006 5:26 pm

People really need to get it together and post some BSP conversions. The application and tutorials are really making it alot easier than it used to be. Hopefully it will spark alot and get alot of maps on Mimesis. We need new maps more than map mods. So ChopChop.

XxSilencedDeathxX · Post by **XxSilencedDeathxX** » Wed Apr 19, 2006 5:27 pm

mm-IRONMAN wrote:People really need to get it together and post some BSP conversions. The application and tutorials are really making it alot easier than it used to be. Hopefully it will spark alot and get alot of maps on Mimesis. We need new maps more than map mods. So ChopChop.

We're...working on it. Look at team discussion on halo kit.

mm-IRONMAN · Post by **mm-IRONMAN** » Wed Apr 19, 2006 5:28 pm

LOL, now why would I have access to Team iMOD's member discussion?

Spammy · Post by **Spammy** » Wed Apr 19, 2006 5:29 pm

If Insolence is trashing the model data, I think we have more to worry about than injecting the BSP Raw. You know, such as not currupting the map

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t_mann05 · Post by **t_mann05** » Wed Apr 19, 2006 5:59 pm

Ok i am at this part...Step 2: Injecting the BSP
Close all programs and open your MP map in ADI. Extract the conversion tag from the map and close ADI.

My question is what am i extracting? The FX tag from my MP map, or the SBSP from my MP map? I tried extracting the old FX tag (i renamed it Magical_BSP) and it says "The path contains illegal characters."

thanks

t_mann05

Shalted · Post by **Shalted** » Wed Apr 19, 2006 6:05 pm

t_mann05 wrote:Ok i am at this part...Step 2: Injecting the BSP
Close all programs and open your MP map in ADI. Extract the conversion tag from the map and close ADI.

My question is what am i extracting? The FX tag from my MP map, or the SBSP from my MP map? I tried extracting the old FX tag (i renamed it Magical_BSP) and it says "The path contains illegal characters."

thanks

t_mann05

FX contains <> so windows can't save it, just change the filename to something else when extracting.

t_mann05 · Post by **t_mann05** » Wed Apr 19, 2006 6:23 pm

What should work? it only will let me type 11 characters now.

Shalted · Post by **Shalted** » Wed Apr 19, 2006 6:30 pm

t_mann05 wrote:What should work? it only will let me type 11 characters now.

In the save file dialog, not as the tag name....

t_mann05 · Post by **t_mann05** » Wed Apr 19, 2006 6:41 pm

where is this save file dialog

do u have msn so we can chat easier?

MasterChief2829 · Post by **MasterChief2829** » Wed Apr 19, 2006 7:00 pm

I would try but I dunno what the hell "and set it's offset to the end of the file" means.

t_mann05 · Post by **t_mann05** » Wed Apr 19, 2006 7:05 pm

that means open up your SP map in HEX and scroll down to the bottom. On the left you will see Hex numbers. Choose the last one you see and put that value in for the offset in ADI in your SP map in ur unimportant tag. The unimportant tag i used was one in the <FX> tag....any one of those will work.

Spammy · Post by **Spammy** » Wed Apr 19, 2006 7:28 pm

And Shalted, it doesn't come up with a save dialog box for the <fx> tag when you click save meta. When you click it, it goes straight to the "the path contains illegal characters" error. No problem, you should be able to just change the tag type in ADI from <fx> to like coll or something.

t_mann05 · Post by **t_mann05** » Wed Apr 19, 2006 10:23 pm

XxSilencedDeathxX wrote:When I fix the raw, the program just freezes. Its been frozen for 25 minutes now, is it supposed to take this long?

It seems frozen for me too. I am going to let it try all night now.

yea its definitely frozen

So now what are we supposed to do?

Samusaaron3 · Post by **Samusaaron3** » Thu Apr 20, 2006 5:03 pm

"Some IDs in th BSP meta are still linked to the left over tags, so you have to swap them to either the BSP, or the lightmap depending on which one it is(Don't worry it's pretty easy to tell them apart). "

What tool do I use to do this, and how do I do it?

Spammy · Post by **Spammy** » Thu Apr 20, 2006 6:01 pm

ADI can do it. It's just like dependencies but they are called LoneIds.

Samusaaron3 · Post by **Samusaaron3** » Thu Apr 20, 2006 6:16 pm

Spammy wrote:ADI can do it. It's just like dependencies but they are called LoneIds.

What exactly do i do?

t_mann05 · Post by **t_mann05** » Thu Apr 20, 2006 7:22 pm

So is the freezing of the pointer tool getting fixed?

Spammy · Post by **Spammy** » Thu Apr 20, 2006 7:27 pm

For the IDs, just go to the SBSP tag in ADI and click the little green wheel thing in the bottom right and then click loneid. Then you change what needs to be changed.

As for the freezing thing, apparently it is Insolence's fault for screwing up the model data and there isn't much we can do about it I guess(unless Shalted or someone else has any ideas). Maybe try injecting everything into a different MP map since maybe Insolence will handle it differently. IDK if that'd work or not...