Log Dissapearance in BG

Dave_Linger · Post by **Dave_Linger** » Sun Feb 29, 2004 10:11 am

in sparkedit, if any log of mine touches the ground, or if any part of the log goes under the ground, in the actual game, it does not appear at all... is this normal, or can i fix it?

Ang88 · Post by **Ang88** » Sun Feb 29, 2004 10:51 am

i get this too, it has something to do with all plants

if you noticed that rocks can be under the ground, then there is some property there that needs to be changed

HunterXI · Post by **HunterXI** » Sun Feb 29, 2004 10:53 am

yeah, I *also* have this problem... if I put trees sideways, they dont appear...

(YAB) Virus · Post by **(YAB) Virus** » Sun Feb 29, 2004 11:12 am

yea same thing happens here

HunterXI · Post by **HunterXI** » Sun Feb 29, 2004 11:13 am

ah well, we'll just have to pu them vertically...

Ang88 · Post by **Ang88** » Sun Feb 29, 2004 11:42 am

ive been looking through the rock meta, and some plant meta, but i can't find that property yet, ill keep looking

HunterXI · Post by **HunterXI** » Sun Feb 29, 2004 12:11 pm

Ang88 wrote:ive been looking through the rock meta, and some plant meta, but i can't find that property yet, ill keep looking

hmm... it would be in the meta? how come plants can float but not be sideways? *confused, and just rambling on, not asking anyone in particular*

Ang88 · Post by **Ang88** » Sun Feb 29, 2004 12:23 pm

plants can be sideways, mabey when that person turned the plant, some of it went under the ground

HunterXI · Post by **HunterXI** » Sun Feb 29, 2004 8:10 pm

Ang88 wrote:plants can be sideways, mabey when that person turned the plant, some of it went under the ground

but the bottoms of trees go well underground... and yeah, I was trying to use a tree as a log replacement to block off a passageway...

Haloking · Post by **Haloking** » Sun Feb 29, 2004 8:24 pm

I also encountered this problem. I found that if you just play with the object by moving it a little bit up each time, it was into the ground just enough to how i liked

HunterXI · Post by **HunterXI** » Sun Feb 29, 2004 8:26 pm

HaloKing wrote:I also encountered this problem. I found that if you just play with the object by moving it a little bit up each time, it was into the ground just enough to how i liked

hmm... really? Ill have to try that tomorrow... weird tho...

05H3T5KY · Post by **05H3T5KY** » Mon Mar 01, 2004 6:54 am

Ok, I've seen this asked quite a few times. Here's how to prevent them from disappearing. In SparEdit v3.01, when you select an object, three white lines come up going through the object from three different angles. These are the representations of the x, y, and z Axis. To allow the object to appear on the map, the point inside the object where the X, Y, and Z meet HAS to be above the ground. For larger objects where you can't easily guess this center point (such as large bouders), I simply raise it just enough to see the beginings of the lines poking out of the object. This should solve your "unappearing" scnery problem. There's nothing in the meta that makes this happen. You just have to place them right in SE.

The Nobody · Post by **The Nobody** » Mon Mar 01, 2004 7:15 am

This has been reported like 20 times now, Gren knows about it.

Ang88 · Post by **Ang88** » Mon Mar 01, 2004 11:31 am

maybe, if you edit the model, you could move the whole thing down more, that way the xyz axis are above the ground, but the actually model is under the ground

05H3T5KY · Post by **05H3T5KY** » Tue Mar 02, 2004 5:05 pm

There's no need to edit the model if you're trying to move logs....just snap their pitch to 180 so the point where the axes all meet is on top.

But for stuff like plants, you just have to use your best judgement on where that central point is. That's the only way I know how to keep this from happeneing.

spartan-117 · Post by **spartan-117** » Tue Mar 02, 2004 6:19 pm

yea if u put them too far under the ground or touchin other things besides other logs then they disapear on mine 2

HunterXI · Post by **HunterXI** » Tue Mar 02, 2004 9:23 pm

lol... so its the actual point where the xyz lines collide that has to do with it disappearing? lol... I can't believe that I couldn't figure that out