George W. Bush's rediculous speeches

[imgettionowned]

EVERYONE SHUT THE FUCK UP!!

-No president will ever be perfect, don't even dare to try to say that one was.

-Abe Lincoln was one of the most insecure presidents we ever had, but he was also out best. Thomas Jefferson had a veryh high pitched voise, so if you don't like bush for that reason, then you dont like the founder of the Democratic party.

-The economy is not a mess, and you have to realize something, the
president dosnt really have much to do with the economy, You think that
it was Clinton who started the 90's boom, hell no, it was electronics and the internet

-The iraq war is not a mess, just the reasons are. We should have clearly stated that we are going into Iraq to save millions of people, after all as many iraqis have died under sadams reign as jews durin Hitlers. I'm tired of hypocrites complainin about how bad some other people have it in the world, and yet they are so unwilling to make other's lives better.

-Taxes, in my opinion there should either be a flat tax of around %15 or the rich should pay more over the Mid Class, and Mid class over poor percent wise. AND NO RIDEOFFS

-Celebities and Media. It's sad how when a dumbass celebrity who's rich because of looks or acting is veiwed upon as smart because they say what they read in the paper. It's even better when people believe them. AND YES, the media is extremely one sided toward democratic views, there's no arguing that.

Yes my rant is finally over.
Nvm too soon

Btw if you're not american shut the fuck up because most likely your government is suffering from worse problems.

Also, please stop arguing about politics because one side will never listen to the other because both are equally close minded.

P.S. Dos Mes- I can guarantee that George Bush is smarter than you, and what country are you from, bc Dos Mes is spanish, so if you are mexican, I'm not saying that you are, get the fuck out of the U.S and try to help Mexico for a change.


WORLD PEACE WILL ONLY COME WHEN AKK THE WORLD IS ON THE SAME PAGE TECHNOLOGICALLY AND IDEOLOGICALLY. IF WARS HAVE TO BE FOUGHT FOR THIS. THEN SO BE IT.
-if you don't believe me, look at pax romana, the most peaceful time in world history

-Owned

[dos mes]

bush is also like 40 year older than me so he better be fucking smarter than me. but it still doesnt deny the fact that i can speak better than him. and i am american but saying "2month" in spanish sounds a lot better than it does in english.

ps i never said there was a perfect president. theres just better ones.

[imgettionowned]

Dos Mes you are the most ignorant and most racist person that I have ever met in my life,

Those ignorant pieces of shit are people, who are born under horrible circumstances where they grow up on hate and jealousy of Americans.

Just remember in 10 years to go look at iraq compared to how it is now.

-Owned

Srry for the double post

Edit: age has nothing to do with intelligience, I'm 16 and i have a better outlook on life and on people than almost everyone that i have met,

[dos mes]

im not racist. i said the ones that dont appreciate what bush actually did do for them are terrible people. i have nothing against the whole arabic or any other nationality comunities.

[imgettionowned]

thsoe people that we "saved" r ungreatful pieces of ****, there are barely any that accept pur help so this is just completely pointless. Many kids have dies out there and their families have to suffer because of one ignorant man that no one even agrees with...except umm u.anyways this country has gotten so much worse since he has taken office and thats shown by the fact that the people have become as retarded as he is to actually have elected him a second time.

really, you didnt say that?

[dos mes]

thsoe people that we "saved" r ungreatful pieces of ****, there are barely any that accept pur help so this is just completely pointless. Many kids have dies out there and their families have to suffer because of one ignorant man that no one even agrees with...except umm u.anyways this country has gotten so much worse since he has taken office and thats shown by the fact that the people have become as retarded as he is to actually have elected him a second time.

Kind of implies that there are some that do accept it.

And by the way man u need to kind of calm down. Dont get so defensive over Bush geez its like hes ur fuckin wife or something. i mean the name of this thread indicates that its for people that have something thats not wuite positive to say about Bush.

[imgettionowned]

I don't give a fuck about Bush, he's an OK president, but i'm tired of people trying to bash someone or something when they are not opening to hear others opinions or facts, and when they themselves don't know the facts,

I'm also tired of hypocrites and ignorant people, so that's I'm rantin

Edit: what you're saying is just stupid and uneduacated

[dos mes]

if youd like to keep going off on me for just participating in a thread about what i am typing about then just pm me u dont need to keep taking up the thread to flame me.

[jks]

-The economy is not a mess, and you have to realize something, the
president dosnt really have much to do with the economy, You think that
it was Clinton who started the 90's boom, hell no, it was electronics and the internet

If you think the president has nothing to do with economy then you are one of the stupidest people Ive ever met, let me give you a crash course in economy:

1. The Baby-Boom generation of the '90s was in fact Clinton's doing and the fact that electronics and internet was available gave it a steroids boost. Tax policy and economic policy is what brought this around, Clintons policy was basically "we need to raise taxes a little bit because a government without money and a multi-trillion dollar deficit cant run things" so thats what he did, he raised taxes a bit and made business programs that encouraged companies to stop outsourcing jobs to other parts of the world. As a result we had a record triple surplus of trillions of dollars.

2. Bush has a policy of favoring his personal and business connections over our country and as such has given a tax cut to the top 2% earners (in a time of war I might add) and establishing programs that make it easier for large corporations to evade taxes, and outsource jobs where we cant tax it. Now we started the Bush administration with a triple surplus and guess where that went? A multi-trillion dollar surplus turned into a huge deficit because of the Iraq war and how much money we are dumping into it, recent estimates are that the federal deficit is increasing by $200 million a day, A DAY! Thats $138,888 a minute.

So that is how the government has to do with the economy.

-The iraq war is not a mess, just the reasons are. We should have clearly stated that we are going into Iraq to save millions of people, after all as many iraqis have died under sadams reign as jews durin Hitlers. I'm tired of hypocrites complainin about how bad some other people have it in the world, and yet they are so unwilling to make other's lives better.

Sure you can say that but that doesnt make it right. We went to war on false pretenses, there is no way around this. Upon leaving the white house Clinton gave Bush a list of countries that are the highest threat to us. Among them were North Korea, Iran, and some African countries, and guess who was at the very bottom of the list? Iraq. We went to war on the terrorists that struck us down on 9/11 and they are in Afghanistan, not Iraq, there is no link between Iraq and the Taliban and to say so is stupid.

You say you are tired of hypocrites saying how bad peoples lives are in some parts of the world and not doing anything about it. Well yes I acknowledge that Iraq was pretty bad off but that doesnt make it the worst. Go to Tanzania or South Africa, they have some of the worst possible domestic conditions in the world and are we doing anything about it? Yes, but not enough.

[quote="imgettionowned]-Celebities and Media. It's sad how when a **** celebrity who's rich because of looks or acting is veiwed upon as smart because they say what they read in the paper. It's even better when people believe them. AND YES, the media is extremely one sided toward democratic views, there's no arguing that.[/quote]

Haha this made me laugh. Celebrities are without doubt some of the most influential people in America, and so I think its good that they can express their views, after all its what america is founded on. As for Democratic bias, have you ever watched Fox, the O'Reily Factor, or Hannity and Colmes? If you havent they are some of the most blatantly neo-con programs out there. There has been a poll among reporters and the media that says, yes, while most support a democratic political view most support a republican economic view.

Also, please stop arguing about politics because one side will never listen to the other because both are equally close minded.

Yes, yes you are.

P.S. Dos Mes- I can guarantee that George Bush is smarter than you, and what country are you from, bc Dos Mes is spanish, so if you are mexican, I'm not saying that you are, get the **** out of the U.S and try to help Mexico for a change.

Shut up you racist piece of shit, I am damn honored that Mexicans want to come here even with how bad it is, it shows our status as the Land of Opportunity still holds. A LOT of people are smarter than George Bush, and just because dos mes may come from a "3rd world country" doesnt make him stupid, in fact he sounds a lot smarter than you. If he wanted to go back to Mexico he would, but conditions there are a lot worse. And as for helping mexico, we as a world superpower have the capacity to do that, but guess where our money is going? Iraq. So an easy solution to the illegal immigration problem would be to make Mexico a better place to live so that they wouldnt want so desparately to come here.

WORLD PEACE WILL ONLY COME WHEN AKK THE WORLD IS ON THE SAME PAGE TECHNOLOGICALLY AND IDEOLOGICALLY. IF WARS HAVE TO BE FOUGHT FOR THIS. THEN SO BE IT.

Are we doing anything to help the world get caught up technologically? Im talking about the world not a small country in the middle of a desert. As for wars, you want millions of people to die to make the world a better place? That doesnt sound too good to me. We cant cultivate fields flooded with the blood of innocents.

-if you don't believe me, look at pax romana, the most peaceful time in world history

Pax romana was a time of piece brought on by years of war and the opressive rule of a roman dictator, 2 wrongs dont make a right, thats why the pax romana period was ended shortly thereafter.

-Owned

Yes I do believe you are.

[imgettionowned]

JKS, first off, the president does have an influence on the economy, but not as much as thought, Clinton did have an ok economic plan, but during the internet and electronics boom, anyone could have set up an economic plan to make money.

JKS you complain about how much money we're wasting on Iraq, and then you say that we're not doing enough to help the less fortunate people of the world. Helping out the African nations would cost much more money because they have no form of stable economy, at least the iraqis have a source of income through oil. Even though,i agree with you we shoould try to help out africa and south america as much as possible.

Spending, do you have any ideas as to how much money mexico and other nations owe us?
you do know that we're giing over 200 bllion dollars to new orleans or
$200,000,000.

Btw, where's the U.N in all this, they don't help anyone, tho most they do is sanction people, during the Rwanda instance they let so many people die, and wait who withdrew our militiary presence from there and would not help, i believe that was clinton

Again, to believe that any president is perfect is just stupid, also tto believe that clinton was a great president is just stupid, HE DID NOTHING GREAT!

[imgettionowned]

DUMBASS PAX ROMANA WAS 200 YEARS LONG!

Secondly what is A LOT of people are not smarter than George Bush and i guarantee that you're not either.

Mexico is like shit because it has such a corurpt government, just like Iraq, I'm all for dismanttling and resetting up the Mexican government, to make the country a better place to live for its citizens, But if we did that then we're land hungry imperialistic americans.

[Dominatr]

Oh crap. The flames are coming.....

[imgettionowned]

Don't worry man, I'm not gonna flame

idk, it just annoys me when people only see one side of things, even though i do it occasionally

[Cuda]

imgettingowned, youre so full of it. Were things better under the Clinton administation? Yes. Have things gotten worse since Bush is in office? Yes. He's trying to do too much, with too little. You've got to understand that.

You also should see how corrupt other governments are, Mexico's just not that good at covering it up.

Bush is trying to fight a war, clean up a disaster-struct and racist city, tighten up the border, beef up a nation's security, restore another country, but still look good in front of a global community. The U.S. is unpopular as ever. This war is ruining our image. A LOT of factors are ruining our image. So many problems just accumulating, and solutions given that make other problems. the CIA agent uncovered, the fact that the US has been torturing people or the fact that the govt. has been tapping U.S. citizens' phones and most importantly, the war. Lets see what happend so far.

War was stared by a false link suggesting that the Taliban had factions in Iraq.

by using "Iraq is developing Nuclear weapons, and weapons of mass destruction" (which to this day is yet to be proven.) The UN send investigators into Iraq to look for these sites.

The US jumps the gun and sends in troops. If they waited a couple more weeks, the US could've saved trillions of dollars.

"major" conflict ends, yet still The US are still killing insurgents, still getting killed by the remnants of the old regime and insurgents, still getting journalists and soldiers alike kidnapped, and bottom line still fighting.

A lot of good has come out of the war, like the fact that we dont have to deal with Saddam anymore, but they handed power over to a bunch of old people trying to start a democracy, with a majority who were born and raised, or spent most of their lives under Saddam's regime. The younger generation( and the ones who are voting) see how bad the country is now than when Saddam was in power, and see how bad it is now. They'd vote to set the old regime back. (If you noticed, at the olympics at athens two years ago, the Coalition created a new flag for iraq, but the Iraqis chose to have the old Red black and white flag representing.)

And for you to say this war isnt as bad as it seems is an understatement. We've wasted 3 years, trillions of dollars, and most importantly, our troops to a cause that was never proven and never found. This war sucks. If we spent this much effort into finding Bin Laden, we would have found him by now. Thats what all of this was over. some awkward links, a false pretense, and rumors.

[imgettionowned]

did you donate money to the katrina fund.

If so, why, they'll never get any better down there,

[Cuda]

Yes we did donate to the Red Cross for Katrina. about 300 bucks as a family. 100 from each of us.

[imgettionowned]

My point, it's always worth a try to try to change something for the better instead of leaving it the way it is

[Cuda]

yet sometimes its best not to fix something when it ain't broken.

'cept for New Orleans, thats really broken.

[jks]

JKS, first off, the president does have an influence on the economy, but not as much as thought, Clinton did have an ok economic plan, but during the internet and electronics boom, anyone could have set up an economic plan to make money.

Did I not make my point clear? President is the economy pretty much, with the ammount of restriction on capitalism the government plays a huge role in economy.

JKS you complain about how much money we're wasting on Iraq, and then you say that we're not doing enough to help the less fortunate people of the world. Helping out the African nations would cost much more money because they have no form of stable economy, at least the iraqis have a source of income through oil. Even though,i agree with you we shoould try to help out africa and south america as much as possible.

So your saying we should only help countries who have something to give to us in return... thats like finding a kid with a broken leg so you pay to have his leg put in a splint, then ask for your money back or your gonna break it again.

Spending, do you have any ideas as to how much money mexico and other nations owe us?
you do know that we're giing over 200 bllion dollars to new orleans or
$200,000,000.

Why do you count this as a viable source of income? Mexico and the other 3rd world countries that borrowed from us did so because they have no money, why would they have borrowed if they did? They dont have the money to pay us in the ammount that would equal out the deficit spending.

Btw, where's the U.N in all this, they don't help anyone, tho most they do is sanction people, during the Rwanda instance they let so many people die, and wait who withdrew our militiary presence from there and would not help, i believe that was clinton

The UN is a league of nations for World Peace not World War, all they have the power to do is sanction people, they dont have a military, and so they cant send in troops to stop a civil war. Do some research before saying things... And Clinton stayed out of Rwanda because something like Iraq would have happend and Clinton has the good common sense to not get involved in something thats gonna cost us trillions of dollars, after all, if we become a 3rd world country helping other 3rd world countries we cant help them any more can we?

Again, to believe that any president is perfect is just stupid, also tto believe that clinton was a great president is just stupid, HE DID NOTHING GREAT!

True no president is ever perfect, but Ill be damned if you say that nothing good came of Clintons administration. I would not even give it a second chance to make him president for the rest of mine and his lives.

Secondly what is A LOT of people are not smarter than George Bush and i guarantee that you're not either.

Ummm the dude has an IQ of like 140 where the average middle schooler has an IQ of 130. I got my IQ tests at a psychology institute and doctors office respectively, and both put me in the 187-192 range.

Mexico is like shit because it has such a corurpt government, just like Iraq, I'm all for dismanttling and resetting up the Mexican government, to make the country a better place to live for its citizens, But if we did that then we're land hungry imperialistic americans.

....So going into Iraq and uprooting the government, pissing off the people and being arrogant jackasses doesnt make us land hungry imperialistic americans Sounds hypocritical to me.

[imgettionowned]

ahhahahahaahhahahahaa.........hold ond

hahahahahhahaha

you're a genius, seriously, anything over 180 is genious, the average IQ is a 100, stephen hawkings is 210

SOOOOOOO, i guess something else you posted was wrong, you keep telling me to get my facts straight when you clearly have no idea what you're talking about