making things teleportable

raz0r · Post by **raz0r** » Mon Jan 19, 2004 7:05 pm

how would u go about giving, for example a grenade, the ability to go thru a teleporter and still blow up? this could get interesting with nukes and rerouting the teleporters to eachothers base's

gryphon · Post by **gryphon** » Mon Jan 19, 2004 7:15 pm

I'm gonna try to think like a machine and give my best guess for this one. The game doesn't allow any object that isn't a player to travel through a teleporter (except whatever the player's carrying). So we've got only bipeds, perhaps even only the cyborg biped, using the teleporters. There may be even more restrictions than that; I've never tried shooting a cyborg from a gun into the teleporter or anything. Anyway, I don't see any way of fooling the engine into letting a projectile through like a player. My best guess is that it's probably impossible to do with our current resources. I bet it would require a massive reworking of how the teleporters work, and we just can't do that kind of thing now. Will it be possible with the SDK? There's a chance, but I'm gonna say it's not likely. Maybe some hardcore modding expert will be able to pull it off someday, but don't count on it.

raz0r · Post by **raz0r** » Mon Jan 19, 2004 8:26 pm

well the real question is what is the restrictor: the teleporter or the biped? does the teleporter say only bipeds can come in, or does the biped say it has access to a teleporter? my guess is the teleporter is the restrictor and ill be lookin into this more and will post results but would love to hear ur guys' input

Archaic Anomaly · Post by **Archaic Anomaly** » Mon Jan 19, 2004 10:41 pm

If you shoot cyborgs into the teleporter they don't go through...

halogodlex2 · Post by **halogodlex2** » Tue Jan 20, 2004 12:07 pm

did you try it or are you making it up #thinking in his..... head damn it he is going to flame me for this#

Archaic Anomaly · Post by **Archaic Anomaly** » Tue Jan 20, 2004 3:44 pm

I tried it.
And I would only flame you if you were flaming other people.

Deadly_Shadow · Post by **Deadly_Shadow** » Tue Jan 20, 2004 5:34 pm

It's probably in Game Globals somewhere. Most stuff in Globals is about MasterChief Bipd.

raz0r · Post by **raz0r** » Tue Jan 20, 2004 8:43 pm

is there any way to edit the game globals?

Archaic Anomaly · Post by **Archaic Anomaly** » Tue Jan 20, 2004 10:22 pm

In globals (HMT) you can only edit the speed of the MC.

Cereb · Post by **Cereb** » Thu Jan 22, 2004 2:22 am

and the grenade ammount... if you have the plugin

I know ther're was a COOP teleport on the xbox version. I do remeber seeing tags for it in HMT. I wonder if this could help in making somign teleportable.

I do remeber a GB guy saying that the teleporter is limited by the engine.

HapeMask · Post by **HapeMask** » Thu Jan 22, 2004 9:46 am

Well if the bipeds you create with say a pistol don't go through, then it must have some other method of deciding what goes through. It may just be that there's some code in the game (not map files) that decides if MC (your character, only the one played by the current player) is on a teleporter, move him to it's target. If so, HMT won't be able to help with this. You'll have to wait for Halo's SDK.

HAL9000 · Post by **HAL9000** » Thu Jan 22, 2004 10:58 am

i figured sumtin out
when i played library as a sentinal i kud go thru the teleporters!
so then its gotta b like a biped or sumtin that can go thru
but yet again i have no idea lol

halofan141 · Post by **halofan141** » Thu Jan 22, 2004 12:18 pm

It's not going to be the biped. I can tell you that right now 100% sure. It's going to be the player tag. Whatever defines which object is player controlled is most likely going to be also what tells the program to add the translation matrix to the matrix for the object of the player. That's my guess.

Ang88 · Post by **Ang88** » Thu Jan 22, 2004 12:38 pm

Cereb wrote:and the grenade ammount... if you have the plugin

where could i get this?

i think that it only allows players to go through the teleporters

Master_Makayo · Post by **Master_Makayo** » Thu Jan 22, 2004 4:42 pm

In the library(mp) if u switch Metas for the cyborg_Mp with somthing like a sentinel or Guilty Spark, youll still go thru

HAL9000 · Post by **HAL9000** » Thu Jan 22, 2004 4:44 pm

i just sayd that st00pid

Cereb · Post by **Cereb** » Sat Jan 24, 2004 5:59 am

Ang88 wrote:
Cereb wrote:and the grenade ammount... if you have the plugin
where could i get this?

i think that it only allows players to go through the teleporters

http://www.halomods.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=3149

The 3rd link, right click and save.