Edge Errors :(

Drugged Up Squirrel · Post by **Drugged Up Squirrel** » Tue Jan 18, 2005 2:24 pm

Yes, im back from my Holiday Sabatical...lucky you...

I am SOOOO close to completion, but i cant get a single .jms file without edge errors. when import the .wrl tool creates, i dont understand what its telling me. do i delete the lines that it adds to the model, or do i leave them in and re-export?

IM using G-max, and illegal dowloads of 3dsmax are for losers. But maybe becoming a loser is what it takes.

Has anyone actually completed a halo map with gmax? Is there a tutorial out there for wrl fixing?

*confusion*

343Halo · Post by **343Halo** » Tue Jan 18, 2005 6:00 pm

the wrl file is just representing where your error is so that you can go and fix it in that spot. once you know where the error is you can delete the wrl lines and easily see where you need to fix.

Drugged Up Squirrel · Post by **Drugged Up Squirrel** » Thu Jan 20, 2005 5:47 pm

But i havent the sligtest clue what its SUPPOSED to look like, or how to fix it. Do i just use a certain tool to drag a line where those lines were?

Pie · Post by **Pie** » Thu Jan 20, 2005 6:37 pm

hey buddy!

can you send me some pictures on PM? i really wanan see your progress, after all the times i've helped you

Drugged Up Squirrel · Post by **Drugged Up Squirrel** » Sat Jan 22, 2005 9:23 am

I suppose so, but i havent gotten any further than the edge errors, and using the HL2 editing software has dummied up my gmax navigation skills. Ill just send you some screenshots of a basic map when near .jms export time, and one with the edge error .wrl file applied to it. I havent made any "progress" really, but the process makes sense to me, and once i get past this edge error part, i think i'll be able to finish up, and then repeat the process enough times to make a pretty good map.

maybe.

Mmkay, ill get you some screenshots...

If you have AIM, im always on, and that works a little bit better.

Pyromania54045

[users]axem · Post by **[users]axem** » Sat Jan 22, 2005 9:31 am

allright, when you import the wrl file press h and seleect all the objects called chimp error. move the edge errors up so you can see where they are and undo the move and fix the areas. simple.

Drugged Up Squirrel · Sat Jan 22, 2005 10:07 am

Yeah, but my problem is that when i do that, theres nothing recognizable to me where those lines were. I don't know what im looking for, and even if i did, i dont know how to fix it.

oh, yeah, every time i export and compile into a scenario, i get the same edge errors with the .wrl. its like a V shaped thing, and 2 or 3 boxes in one corner. I guess im making the same mistake every time?

ill post some pics.

http://www.jordan.exploretristate.com/

Go for the ones named

-wrl
-cmd copy
-woodlandwar copy

343Halo · Post by **343Halo** » Sun Jan 23, 2005 12:24 pm

yo dude you can't post direct links to gprime. repost the links

Drugged Up Squirrel · Post by **Drugged Up Squirrel** » Mon Jan 24, 2005 5:07 pm

*Fixed links*

343Halo · Post by **343Halo** » Tue Jan 25, 2005 10:11 am

ok well since its just giving you open edge errors why don't you goto the edge selection tab (right beside the vertex selection tab) and then there should be a button that says select open edges. if you veiw your model in wire frame its real easy to see where the open edges are and then you will need to either create more faces or redo some.

Drugged Up Squirrel · Post by **Drugged Up Squirrel** » Sun Apr 03, 2005 5:48 pm

Alright, im back, and ive decided im going to successfully make a map if its the last thing i do. NOW, bearing in mind that i have no idea what an edge error is, what it looks like, how to fix it, or what im looking for, can someone explain to me What i do right after i put the wrl file onto my .gmax file?

Im left with a confusing wireframe setup and some purple lines, generally its two rectanglular boxes and two diagonal lines or something of that nature, but those lines mean nothing to me. I can't grasp what im supposed to do. I know they are just pointing out the errors, but i dont know what my map SHOULD look like, and even if i did, i wouldnt know how to fix it.

Waverunner · Post by **Waverunner** » Sun Apr 03, 2005 5:51 pm

well, once you imported the .wrl file, type h on the keyboard. Chimp puts the edge errors in as actual objects on ur map. Once you fix the edge error (open edge) you can delete the Chimp Edge Error object it put in the object section.

A map has to be "sealed" meaning no holes in the map. So, a edge error is basically just a hole in the map.

I'd be happy to help you on AIM if you need any additional help, or PM me

Pie · Post by **Pie** » Mon Apr 04, 2005 8:27 am

Drugged Up Squirrel wrote:Alright, im back, and ive decided im going to successfully make a map if its the last thing i do. NOW, bearing in mind that i have no idea what an edge error is, what it looks like, how to fix it, or what im looking for, can someone explain to me What i do right after i put the wrl file onto my .gmax file?

Im left with a confusing wireframe setup and some purple lines, generally its two rectanglular boxes and two diagonal lines or something of that nature, but those lines mean nothing to me. I can't grasp what im supposed to do. I know they are just pointing out the errors, but i dont know what my map SHOULD look like, and even if i did, i wouldnt know how to fix it.

Long time no see, buddy. I remember the days *thinks back*

Anyhow,..wait, are you using Gmax? I really dont know anything about Gmax, but i'm sure I can help you out with fixing errors. I've cut back on modeling since i started using photoshop. I asked waverunner for help, but he said I didn't need any

. Anyway, again, if you IM me (i'll be on 3:30-4:00 EST --when i get home from school--)

I still want to see how far you've come, and catch up. Youve been gone for like three months

Nice to see you back, Squirrel boy

__Blaz0__ · Post by **__Blaz0__** » Mon Apr 04, 2005 11:57 am

Waverunner wrote:A map has to be "sealed" meaning no holes in the map. So, a edge error is basically just a hole in the map.

An edge error does not mean there is a hole. An open edge error means there is a hole. It could be there is an edge there that does not connect to anything else. Or even worse thatn that.. Degenerate Triangle errors. All you have to do , although it will take some time. Is to just keep importing the *.wrl file, pick one object from it. Then go through and delete the faces that are close to that. Click to edge and you will prolly see an edge in place of the deleted geometry. Get rid of it, then recreate the faces. You might have to repeat the process of running tool and re-importing the *.wrl quite a few times to get it fixed.

Also use the STL modifier and change the material color on error. Might be a lil easier than doing all the exporting/importing stuff.

Hope that helps..
__Blaz0__

Drugged Up Squirrel · Post by **Drugged Up Squirrel** » Tue Apr 26, 2005 2:53 pm

Hurr..

Alright, im going into gmax as i type this..

*hours pass*

Ok, i did the "h" command, picked one of the errors, and it simply highlited the corresponding lines. I dont know what to DO with it. I see the errors just fine, i know they are errors, but i dont know HOW to fix them. it just makes no sense to me.

SCREENSHOT LIEK LAWL.
http://img173.echo.cx/img173/6081/gmax2pm.jpg

More or less, despite your kind attempts to help me, im still stuck in a hole.

__Blaz0__ · Post by **__Blaz0__** » Wed Apr 27, 2005 5:01 am

Those look like bounding boxes arround ur bad face/edge. Try to edit the main mesh and just delete the same thing that the *.wrl file represents on your mesh. You just have to try to fix it, then export, reimport.. There is sometimes no easier way of doing it than that. It can be a very long, and drawn out process, but you will feel damn good when ur done and the errors are fixed. Just keep goin at it..

__Blaz0__

an emu · Post by **an emu** » Wed Apr 27, 2005 5:35 am

alot of times all you have to do to fix an error is weld some verticies. there might be a usesless vertex on the same edge as another, causing an error like this: ._________._________. take the middle one and weld to one of the edges. also there might be two verticies in the same spot. to check this drag a selection box around the suspected vertex and if it says 2 or more verticies selected, weld them

Drugged Up Squirrel · Wed Apr 27, 2005 12:52 pm

OK, ill be looking at that wireframe view shortly, but what is the command for wireframe mode in the perspective window? Im stupid, bear that in mind.

Patrickssj6 · Post by **Patrickssj6** » Wed Apr 27, 2005 1:01 pm

rendering>render>renderer tab>check the force wireframe box

an emu · Post by **an emu** » Wed Apr 27, 2005 2:49 pm

or f3