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OH NOES! They be stealing mah emoticons!

Posted: Fri Dec 12, 2008 8:40 am
by bcnipod
http://news.bbc.co.uk/go/rss/-/1/hi/wor ... 778767.stm

The president of Russian social networking site odnoklassniki.ru, Nikita Sherman said: "You're not likely to find any retards in Russia who'll pay Superfone for the use of emoticons".
nice choice of words...I dearly hope that it was the translator that did that and not him.

Re: OH NOES! They be stealing mah emoticons!

Posted: Fri Dec 12, 2008 8:44 am
by Tural
bcnipod wrote:nice choice of words...I dearly hope that it was the translator that did that and not him.
Um, why? Are you insinuating that trademarking, and then trying to make people pay you for using, emoticons is somehow not retarded? That quote is saying that if people pay to use emoticons, it is retarded, and it is...

Furthermore, as the article points out, this is just a dumb gimmicky thing that has been done before, nothing special or worthwhile.

Re: OH NOES! They be stealing mah emoticons!

Posted: Fri Dec 12, 2008 10:17 am
by bcnipod
Tural wrote:
bcnipod wrote:nice choice of words...I dearly hope that it was the translator that did that and not him.
Um, why? Are you insinuating that trademarking, and then trying to make people pay you for using, emoticons is somehow not retarded? That quote is saying that if people pay to use emoticons, it is retarded, and it is...

Furthermore, as the article points out, this is just a dumb gimmicky thing that has been done before, nothing special or worthwhile.
I just think it is just poor wording.

Posted: Fri Dec 12, 2008 10:19 am
by Tural
But why?

It's just some guy who runs a website. It's not like the Prime Minister is saying it. It would be like if Tom from MySpace said something was retarded. Who cares?

Posted: Fri Dec 12, 2008 10:25 am
by DrXThirst
The word "President" confused him.

Posted: Fri Dec 12, 2008 11:20 am
by Cuda
btw, :mrgreen: <-free.

Posted: Fri Dec 12, 2008 12:17 pm
by bcnipod
Tural wrote:But why?

It's just some guy who runs a website. It's not like the Prime Minister is saying it. It would be like if Tom from MySpace said something was retarded. Who cares?
I know that, nevermind about whatever I said because obviously nobody cares...

Posted: Fri Dec 12, 2008 4:35 pm
by Xeno2
Tural wrote:But why?

It's just some guy who runs a website. It's not like the Prime Minister is saying it. It would be like if Tom from MySpace said something was retarded. Who cares?
Because the person saying it is supposedly a CEO of some networking company who in which the tradition sense, would not say such a thing or atleast would word the comment differently.
"Retard" or "retarded" is used so much as a slang word that the original meaning is forgotten and almost seems unprofessional.
on topic.
so um cool i can go grab something thats been about for years and just slap a patent on it and make people pay me to use it?
I now ©internetz.

Posted: Fri Dec 12, 2008 4:38 pm
by Tural
Xeno2 wrote:Because the person saying it is supposedly a CEO of some networking company who in which the tradition sense, would not say such a thing or atleast would word the comment differently.
The person is the "president" of a social networking website. He is akin to Tom, from MySpace, as I said. He's not some corporate CEO, he's a guy that owns a social networking site. :roll: It is, for all intents and purposes, like Tom saying something is retarded. Nobody cares.
As for your explanation of the word "retarded," thank you for pointing out what everyone knows, but that is not the issue here, and that's not what I'm questioning, so that is pretty much irrelevant to my post.

Posted: Fri Dec 12, 2008 4:50 pm
by Xeno2
Good job taking what i said about the wording out of context.
And FYI i dont use those kinds of sites so i wouldnt know who "tom" is for all i know he may a cat who gets abused by a small brown mouse.

Posted: Fri Dec 12, 2008 4:57 pm
by Tural
Right, again with the wording issue, not only is it still irrelevant and pointless to go on about, but now you're making it the central facet of your argument, because you feel you can build a case on it. It has nothing to do with this discussion, so drop it. You're off on a pointless tangent with it. Also, I didn't use it in any way that was contextually important, so I fail to see your point. Spoilers: There isn't one. Drop. It. It. Doesn't. Have. Any. Relevance.

Tom is the owner and founder of MySpace, he is the person who owns the site. I chose him as an example for name recognition, as most people know who he is. He is just some random dude who owns a website, that is the same type of person being quoted in the article. He is a guy that owns a website, he is not a CEO of a big corporation, he just owns a popular website, what he says should not be expected to be politically correct, he's probably just some normal guy, the exact type of person who would use such slang. Hoping that it was a translator error doesn't make sense, because there is no reason you would expect such a person to not say something like that. That is the basis for this entire argument, and I think if people had paid a little more attention to the phrase "social networking site," we could have avoided it. "Social networking site" and "networking company" have very, very different connotations, and are in no way comparable.

Posted: Fri Dec 12, 2008 7:26 pm
by Cuda
Tom doesn't own Myspace. He still works for them and employs staff, but doesn't own it. News Corp. Bought it from him a few years ago. So if in Russia, retards buy Emoticons, Does that mean in regards to Smirnoff's Law, that in The United States, Emoticons buy retards?

Posted: Fri Dec 12, 2008 7:30 pm
by Tural
Whatever. Semantics. The analogy accomplishes the same message either way.

Posted: Mon Dec 15, 2008 7:54 pm
by Xero
;-)

Posted: Mon Dec 15, 2008 8:17 pm
by Hawaiian Modder
All I have to say, is what tural has been trying to say.
Who Cares? Really how does this relate to your life in any way, shape or form. It doesn't. You probably don't even live in Russia. :?

Posted: Tue Dec 16, 2008 7:33 am
by Xeno2
Trademarks translate world wide.
Sort of like how konami had to change the MGS4 theme tune because it was too simular to a classical russian music.