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Sry, that was a typo. Fixed.
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gh0570fchurch wrote:Exactly, the accident may have absolutely nothing with the accident.
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1.how could they possibly charge him with this?
He killed someone. Sounds reasonable enough. Whether or not he should be sentenced to whatever is different though. Depends on the circumstances.
we got up to 110 and he did just fine
See now if he was going 110, on vicodin and knew he shouldn't drive, with his brother in the car, I'm not sure I would let him off the hook. I think the biggest factors are if he knew he shouldn't have been driving and how he was driving. Pretty much if he was doing anything he knew was wrong, he shouldn't be let go. Community service or something, I dunno.
Did he know at the time you were going 110 that he shouldn't be driving? The guy never said he knew about it at the time, he just may of thought afterwards of it that he was driving well while being on the drug.
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"Oh but its too harsh sir!"
Sure, one could argue that, because thats what it is...But they guy was taking drugs, he went out and drove and an unfortunate incident occured...
I can take a shot of vodka, go out and drive, replicate this situation, and look! I'm driving under the influence! Regardless of its affects on me or if the vodka had anything to do with it.
What if I took a performance enhancer for a sport? yet it didn't actually help me in the end, but it turns out I'm positive, woops look at that, I'm disqualified and possibly banned from all sporting for th rest of my life... (less harsh situation but the best reference I could think of at the time ;))

These things are indeed cruel, but it is still valid for them to do such a thing as the person took it, had the awareness that it was taken, and had an accident that may or may not have been due to the drug. And plus how could one prove otherwise? There is no real sympathy in law I say, else anything could be twisted.

I am very sorry to hear for the loss, and I do hope that they do not pursure this manslaughter claim and I hope you your friend and his family can manage to get through the tough times together. It's just that my post is saying that they are able to do it...I jsut hope it doesn't happen that way though.
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halo0001 wrote:we got up to 110 and he did just fine.
I think I found the problem. The fact that the speed limit is usually limited to 70 Mph(80 Mph in Texas) and he was known to drive 40 Mph over said speed limit shows recklessness in the driver. When your on drugs that tell you not to drive or operate machinery and not only do you disobey the warnings, but you break the law, and you kill someone you should be at fault. I know if my little sister died in a car wreck driving around with my brother who breaks the speed limit all the time, I would want to charge him.

We do not know what went on. Possibly the brother was telling his older brother (who will be known as Driver) to speed up because he thought it was cool? Possibly the passenger was telling the driver to slow down but he refused. Either way, he would be at fault. But, if anyone should decide, I think it should be his family.

Losing a friend is always hard, but you just need to hang out with some other friends for a while. Join a club or something. Do something productive that involves some hard work. I guarantee that you will feel better. Just don't repress it, and don't just sit there and feel bad for yourself.
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My lil brother was killed by an old man driving. my bro ran across the road and my sister called him and he ran but before he could get back across the road the old guy ran off the road and it was over.
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ScottyGEE wrote:These things are indeed cruel, but it is still valid for them to do such a thing as the person took it, had the awareness that it was taken, and had an accident that may or may not have been due to the drug. And plus how could one prove otherwise? There is no real sympathy in law I say, else anything could be twisted.
There is. I'm not sure about American Law, but here there isn't just one rule of statutory interpretation, e.g. if a Judge feels by applying the law to the case literally it could give rise to stupidity or an absurd result, the Judge would then use a different method of interpreting the statute/legislation.

I'd also like to emphasize you can be found guilty of a crime and not receive a punishment, though this is very rare. The jury decides the verdict, the judge decides the punishment. So If it were me as Judge, once found guilty by the Jury (which is he) I would then charge him but not sentence him, or be very lenient on the sentence.

Until we're given the specifics, nobody's right or wrong, so it's a waste of time arguing who's right.

Locke has probably made the best point in this topic thus far.
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Theres a old saying.... actually I'm making it up now. Any way. Say a fish ate your brother, you wouldn't get revenge on fish, you eat fish. Random eh?
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cryticfarm wrote:Theres a old saying.... actually I'm making it up now. Any way. Say a fish ate your brother, you wouldn't get revenge on fish, you eat fish. Random eh?
Yeah and it makes no sence.
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I kinda skimmed through the topic, and didn't really see anyone cover these points, so sorry if they already did.
halo0001 wrote: 2.has anything similar to this happen to anyone else?
As for #2; my best friend and his family were killed by a drunk driver on New Year's Eve 2006. It was really quite a shock, my thought proccess was something like, "Yeah, people die, but not people I know. This isn't possible."
When it finally sunk in it was like a flood gate of sadness and anger(towards the drunk driver that left with a few scratches) just opened.

halo0001 wrote: 3.and how did you all stop thinking about it?

sry if this is wierd or something but idk i just need to figure this **** out
This is a difficult one. It's been a few months now, but personally I don't feel like I'll be able to stop thinking about it, but it hurts less and less as time goes on. You may even feel guilty that you've started to move on.

Hmm, this response wasn't nearly as long as I would've liked, but I can't really add much else. "Just hang in there" is all I can really tell you.
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Mar speaks the truth. There's really nothing you can say to someone that will just make them feel better. Still, life has a way of throwing stuff like this at even the world's greatest people, so "hanging in there" is really the only thing you can do. Plus, no one is ever completely gone as long as they're remembered. Remembering is the best thing you can do in my opinion.
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SHOUTrvb wrote:Mar speaks the truth. There's really nothing you can say to someone that will just make them feel better. Still, life has a way of throwing stuff like this at even the world's greatest people, so "hanging in there" is really the only thing you can do. Plus, no one is ever completely gone as long as they're remembered. Remembering is the best thing you can do in my opinion.
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yeah me and my friends were going to blockbuster with my brother driving we almost get in a car wreck fortunately enough noone called he cops cause my brother was driving high and i was really mad at him for not telling me
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