'Defy'-Grav magnets idea.

GametagAeonFlux · Post by **GametagAeonFlux** » Mon Sep 10, 2007 2:48 pm

It's possible, but not practical...if this were to be done on the scale you're trying to create, it would be near impossible for a kid to complete. You'd need a pretty knowledgeable team if you were even going to attempt this.

Senor_Grunt · Post by **Senor_Grunt** » Mon Sep 10, 2007 2:50 pm

GametagAeonFlux wrote:It's possible, but not practical...if this were to be done on the scale you're trying to create, it would be near impossible for a kid to complete. You'd need a pretty knowledgeable team if you were even going to attempt this.

Again, true.

It was just an idea thought up out of boredom so it didn't have much thought in it.

FleetAdmiralBacon · Post by **FleetAdmiralBacon** » Mon Sep 10, 2007 2:52 pm

GametagAeonFlux wrote:It's possible, but not practical...if this were to be done on the scale you're trying to create, it would be near impossible for a kid to complete. You'd need a pretty knowledgeable team if you were even going to attempt this.

Well, for the original design and testing aspect, yes. But once you have a design that works, I don't see it as being something amazingly expensive and hard to obtain.

BRB, dinner, then I'll continue to spew my knowledge on the subject, limited as it may be...

Senor_Grunt · Post by **Senor_Grunt** » Mon Sep 10, 2007 3:00 pm

Something else i just thought of, with any of the designs, all you would be able to do on the board is ride around on it, because in order for tricks, you have to be able to 'pop' the board off of a solid object, and if you tried to put magnets on the tail and nose, it would corrupt the float of the board, because the nose and tail are angled.

FleetAdmiralBacon · Post by **FleetAdmiralBacon** » Mon Sep 10, 2007 3:14 pm

Senor_Grunt wrote:Something else i just thought of, with any of the designs, all you would be able to do on the board is ride around on it, because in order for tricks, you have to be able to 'pop' the board off of a solid object, and if you tried to put magnets on the tail and nose, it would corrupt the float of the board, because the nose and tail are angled.

That's also not true. If you ever bounced up and down on, say, a scale, you'd know that you'd be bounce back up higher than you were originally situated. Tricking would be limited though, but is that the real thrill of it? I don't think so, I think the thrill and excitement would come from just floating. Also, you could make a track-shaped ground array and race them.

Senor_Grunt · Post by **Senor_Grunt** » Mon Sep 10, 2007 3:19 pm

FleetAdmiralBacon wrote:
Senor_Grunt wrote:Something else i just thought of, with any of the designs, all you would be able to do on the board is ride around on it, because in order for tricks, you have to be able to 'pop' the board off of a solid object, and if you tried to put magnets on the tail and nose, it would corrupt the float of the board, because the nose and tail are angled.
That's also not true. If you ever bounced up and down on, say, a scale, you'd know that you'd be bounce back up higher than you were originally situated. Tricking would be limited though, but is that the real thrill of it? I don't think so, I think the thrill and excitement would come from just floating. Also, you could make a track-shaped ground array and race them.

THAT is something I never would have thought of, I think racing 'Anti-Grav' boards would be more fun than doing tricks with them.

EDIT:
Also, what if I take straps from, lets say, a snowboard and put them on the skateboard, wouldn't that give you a little more control over the board? Although it would limit you from doing ANY tricks, but racing would still be more fun.

FleetAdmiralBacon · Post by **FleetAdmiralBacon** » Mon Sep 10, 2007 3:43 pm

Also, what if I take straps from, lets say, a snowboard and put them on the skateboard, wouldn't that give you a little more control over the board?

I'd actually suggest doing just that, it was pretty much implied by the hole "hard to control" part. Being attached would keep the board from going wild whilst getting on it.
Ever see Back to the Future II? Think like that, only magnets are what's holding it up instead some unknown force of levitation. Also, it wouldn't be pink. Except for the "My First Hoverboard" model for girls.

Senor_Grunt · Post by **Senor_Grunt** » Mon Sep 10, 2007 3:54 pm

FleetAdmiralBacon wrote:
Also, what if I take straps from, lets say, a snowboard and put them on the skateboard, wouldn't that give you a little more control over the board?
I'd actually suggest doing just that, it was pretty much implied by the hole "hard to control" part. Being attached would keep the board from going wild whilst getting on it.
Ever see Back to the Future II? Think like that, only magnets are what's holding it up instead some unknown force of levitation. Also, it wouldn't be pink. Except for the "My First Hoverboard" model for girls.

Exactly where I got the idea from, except without the unknown source of flotation and the pink color.

shadowkhas · Post by **shadowkhas** » Mon Sep 10, 2007 5:21 pm

I haven't played with magnets much...so all I think I can say without making a total fool of myself is that you're going to have to balance yourself REALLY carefully so that your center of gravity stays within the tolerance of "I'm standing up" or "I'm currently smashing my face on magnets, brb."

Senor_Grunt · Post by **Senor_Grunt** » Mon Sep 10, 2007 5:35 pm

haha, yeah, it will be like learning to ride a bike, except ill be floating...not sitting...

CDK908 · Post by **CDK908** » Mon Sep 10, 2007 5:38 pm

some monorails use this not really impossible. but it's not anti grav it's defy grav.

Senor_Grunt · Post by **Senor_Grunt** » Mon Sep 10, 2007 5:54 pm

CDK908 wrote:some monorails use this not really impossible. but it's not anti grav it's defy grav.

oh, I thought it was anti-grav. Well I guess it doesn't matter as long as you can float.

Im gonna try this experiment anyways despite all the people who said its impossible, if it works, or doesn't, ill get pics to prove i did it.

shadowkhas · Post by **shadowkhas** » Mon Sep 10, 2007 6:33 pm

Senor_Grunt wrote:[...]ill get pics to prove i did it.

Videos.*

Senor_Grunt · Post by **Senor_Grunt** » Mon Sep 10, 2007 6:37 pm

shadowkhas wrote:
Senor_Grunt wrote:[...]ill get pics to prove i did it.
Videos.*

lol, i was trying to avoid showing people that i have no balance..

but yeah ill get a video instead

mr_penguin · Post by **mr_penguin** » Mon Sep 10, 2007 6:44 pm

do a scale test before doing the real thing. Use a bey blade bowl magnet thing and try to put magnets on a finger board and see hoe that works.

Senor_Grunt · Post by **Senor_Grunt** » Mon Sep 10, 2007 6:46 pm

mr_penguin wrote:do a scale test before doing the real thing. Use a bey blade bowl magnet thing and try to put magnets on a finger board and see hoe that works.

Thats a good idea, i didn't think of that, ill put some magnets on a tech deck and use a piece cardboard as a substitute for my backyard

*EDIT*
OMFG!! I cant tell if this is real or not:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=dx3pXpgJcf0

*edit again*

never mind, i went to the guys website and he said all the videos he made were fake, kinda figured

Dalek · Post by **Dalek** » Tue Sep 11, 2007 5:21 am

you lot realise you need a special qualification for the kind of strenth magnets your suggesting...

shadowkhas · Post by **shadowkhas** » Tue Sep 11, 2007 10:56 am

Dalek wrote:you lot realise you need a special qualification for the kind of strenth magnets your suggesting...

Just like the FCC has a bunch of regulations on transmission devices, but I'm sure many people rig their own antennas up without reading up on certifications.

Plus, if he's using a bunch of small magnets, the necessary qualifications might only apply to singular large magnets, not multiple small ones.

Dalek · Post by **Dalek** » Tue Sep 11, 2007 11:13 am

yes but an arial cant make every knife in your kitchen fly at you with deathly speeds can it?

shadowkhas · Post by **shadowkhas** » Tue Sep 11, 2007 11:46 am

Dalek wrote:yes but an arial cant make every knife in your kitchen fly at you with deathly speeds can it?

Once again...if you have lots of small magnets, they won't amplify each other and radiate outwards at huge distances. One large magnet will have a huge distance, but many small magnets will have a strength at nearer distance.