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Ice instead of normal ground?
Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2008 2:08 pm
by Ar7ific1al
You know how on Halo 1, on the map Sidewinder, there's ice,and you drive on it or walk on it, and you slide? Is there a way to make it so when I walk on the dirt on Zanzibar, you slide when you stop walking? I know I can lower the traction of a vehicle to make it slide, but what if I only want it to slide on the dirt? I need this for my Zanzibar mod, which is supposed to be kind of like antarctica, I need to make the dirt ice instead of dirt. Also, is there a way to make the ice reflect what's on it or something similar to that?
Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2008 2:31 pm
by kibito87
For the dirt to atleast look like ice...you might want to edit the shader and give it a bitmap that looks like ice. Find a shader that has a nice reflective surface.
Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2008 2:52 pm
by DeadlyXtreme
I think the sliding thing would have to be done by using a script that reduces said vehicles traction when it's X and X equal the ices X and Y. Sorry if that doesn't make sense.
Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2008 6:46 pm
by Ar7ific1al
yeah, that does make sense, but I don't know how to script. I need some people to help me make this mod, but no one has even bothered to offer help.
Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2008 7:12 pm
by DeadlyXtreme
sorry the only scripting experiance I have is with the psp.
Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2008 9:42 pm
by CaptainPoopface
I'm doing something like this for an upcoming mod of mine. There are probably multiple ways to do it. The drawback of my method is that it makes all the surfaces on the BSP slippery, so you could not do it for just the dirt.
I'll explain how when I release the mod (a few more days maybe).
Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2008 10:09 pm
by Skrillaka
So Slippery dirt?
This is a good idea
lowering the lighting of the dirt and have it slippery and you've got yourself Mud!
Good idea
Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2008 11:18 pm
by Ar7ific1al
that would probably help me in at least one way =P
Posted: Tue Mar 18, 2008 10:37 am
by snakejknight
i have not seen this done before, and i don't see how you could script it to do so... i take that back, if you lowered the gravity when you are in a specific area, the vehicle would slide.
Posted: Tue Mar 18, 2008 2:21 pm
by bumlove
I am working on Bsp surface material responses right now, I haven't tested if that includes ice being slippery, some testing to do but extract this and paste it in the correct place in the Sbsp.ent
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<struct name="Collision Materials" offset="28" visible="True" size="20" label="">
<tag name="Unused" offset="0" visible="True" />
<id name="Unused" offset="4" visible="True" />
<enum16 name="Material Foot Identity" offset="8" visable="True">
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<option value="3" name="liquid_thin_shallow?" />
<option value="6" name="soft" />
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<option value="8" name="soft_organic_flesh" />
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<option value="11" name="soft_organic_flesh_grunt" />
<option value="12" name="soft_organic_flesh_jackal" />
<option value="13" name="soft_organic_flesh_hunter" />
<option value="14" name="soft_organic_flesh_prophet" />
<option value="15" name="soft_organic_flesh_bugger" />
<option value="17" name="soft_organic_plant" />
<option value="18" name="soft_organic_plant_leafy" />
<option value="20" name="soft_organic_plant_grassy" />
<option value="21" name="soft_inorganic" />
<option value="22" name="soft_inorganic_vinyl" />
<option value="25" name="soft_terrain" />
<option value="26" name="soft_terrain_snow" />
<option value="27" name="tough" />
<option value="28" name="tough_organic" />
<option value="29" name="tough_organic_flesh" />
<option value="30" name="tough_organic_flesh_bugger" />
<option value="31" name="tough_organic_flesh_brute" />
<option value="33" name="tough_inorganic" />
<option value="34" name="tough_inorganic_armor" />
<option value="36" name="tough_inorganic_rubber" />
<option value="39" name="tough_inorganic_plastic" />
<option value="42" name="tough_floodflesh" />
<option value="44" name="tough_floodflesh_carrierform" />
<option value="45" name="tough_floodflesh_infectionform" />
<option value="46" name="tough_organic_wood" />
<option value="47" name="tough_terrain" />
<option value="48" name="tough_terrain_dirt" />
<option value="49" name="tough_terrain_grass" />
<option value="50" name="tough_terrain_mud" />
<option value="51" name="tough_terrain_gravel" />
<option value="52" name="tough_terrain_sand" />
<option value="53" name="hard" />
<option value="54" name="hard_metal_thin" />
<option value="55" name="hard_metal_thin_hum" />
<option value="56" name="hard_metal_thin_hum_masterchief" />
<option value="60" name="hard_metal_thin_hum_military" />
<option value="61" name="hard_metal_thin_cov_grunt" />
<option value="62" name="hard_metal_thin_cov_hereticleader" />
<option value="63" name="hard_metal_thin_cov_elite" />
<option value="66" name="hard_metal_thin_urban_garage_door" />
<option value="67" name="hard_metal_thin_for_sentinel" />
<option value="68" name="hard_metal_thin_for_monitor" />
<option value="69" name="hard_metal_thick" />
<option value="70" name="hard_metal_thick_hum" />
<option value="72" name="hard_metal_thick_hum_warthog" />
<option value="75" name="hard_metal_thick_hum_chassis" />
<option value="76" name="hard_metal_thick_cov" />
<option value="77" name="hard_metal_thick_cov_hunter" />
<option value="78" name="hard_metal_thick_cov_ghost" />
<option value="79" name="hard_metal_thick_cov_shadow" />
<option value="82" name="hard_metal_thick_cov_banshee" />
<option value="83" name="hard_metal_thick_cov_creep" />
<option value="84" name="hard_metal_thick_cov_wraith" />
<option value="86" name="hard_metal_for_industrial" />
<option value="89" name="hard_metal_solid" />
<option value="90" name="hard_metal_solid_hum_platforms" />
<option value="91" name="hard_metal_solid_hum_scorpion" />
<option value="94" name="hard_metal_solid_cov_high_charity_black?" />
<option value="95" name="hard_metal_solid_cov_hunter" />
<option value="96" name="hard_metal_solid_cov_wraith" />
<option value="97" name="hard_metal_solid_cov_creep" />
<option value="98" name="hard_metal_solid_for_lights?" />
<option value="99" name="hard_metal_solid_for_lights_again?" />
<option value="100" name="hard_terrain" />
<option value="101" name="hard_terrain_ice" />
<option value="102" name="hard_terrain_stone" />
<option value="103" name="hard_terrain_stone_rough" />
<option value="104" name="hard_terrain_concrete" />
<option value="105" name="hard_floodflesh" />
<option value="106" name="brittle" />
<option value="107" name="brittle_glass" />
<option value="112" name="brittle_glass_for_unbreakable" />
<option value="114" name="brittle_glass_unknown" />
<option value="115" name="brittle_elec" />
<option value="116" name="brittle_elec_hum" />
<option value="117" name="brittle_elec_cov" />
<option value="126" name="brittle_elec_for" />
<option value="128" name="brittle_mech" />
<option value="135" name="brittle_mech_cov" />
<option value="137" name="brittle_explosive" />
<option value="144" name="energy" />
<option value="145" name="energy_shield_thin" />
<option value="146" name="energy_shield_thin_hum" />
<option value="148" name="energy_shield_thin_cov" />
<option value="149" name="energy_shield_thin_cov_elite" />
<option value="151" name="conveyors_or_somthing" />
<option value="152" name="energy_shield_thick" />
<option value="154" name="energy_shield_thick_cov" />
<option value="155" name="energy_shield_thick_cov_jackal" />
<option value="157" name="energy_holo" />
<option value="160" name="energy_something_viewscreen_santum?" />
<option value="161" name="liquid_thin_water_puddle" />
<option value="162" name="liquid_thin_water_shallow" />
<option value="163" name="liquid_thin_water_shallow_wet?" />
<option value="164" name="liquid_duno_water_beach_bottomless?" />
<option value="167" name="hard_metal_thin_hum_grating" />
<option value="169" name="invisible_wall" />
<option value="170" name="tough_terrain_planter" />
<option value="171" name="tough_terrain_woodfloor" />
<option value="175" name="tough_terrain_driftwood" />
<option value="176" name="tough_terrain_carpet" />
<option value="177" name="hard_metal_thin_cov_brute" />
</enum16>
<short name="Only For Conveyors?" offset="10" visible="True" />
<tag name="Shader True Only For Unskinned" offset="12" visible="True" />
<id name="Shader True Only For Unskinned" offset="16" visible="True" />
</struct>
then try turning surfaces like sand to ice, I'm not sure it will work in that way (sliding and what have you) I'll test myself but this saves you waiting
Posted: Tue Mar 18, 2008 6:11 pm
by Ar7ific1al
Hey, guys, I have the solution (sort of, not completely lol)! The latest Entity vehi plugin has a ground friction box, I lowered that from .85 to .37 on coag (to test) and it slides very well! Although, it's on all surfaces lol hey bumlove, I assume that's... a piece of an entity plugin? lol where might I put that? I mean, where in the plugin might I insert that once I open it with notepad, etc. to edit?
Posted: Wed Mar 19, 2008 12:42 am
by bumlove
Sbsp pluggin, right near the top, replace collision materials struct to struct
Posted: Wed Mar 19, 2008 11:38 am
by Ar7ific1al
Okay, well I guess I'll try that out, and see what happens =P
EDIT: Hey bumlove, I'm definitely gonna use this lol it changes sounds and everything, but no sliding when you walk on the ice, etc. Still pretty awesome! I like the sound of the frag grenade bouncing on the ice lol I like the mud, too, it sounds like real mud =P just in case, bumlove, you made that, right? I don't wanna give credit to the wrong person lol just makin sure =P
Posted: Thu Mar 20, 2008 8:04 am
by bumlove
yeah its my work and findings, but real credit belongs to demonicsandwich and xzodia, thats my first ever bit of plugin work and their previous work and some advice helped me, I'm very close to figuring out individual surfaces (not large groups of) and now I know that something else makes a surface slidey I'll look for that too
Posted: Thu Mar 20, 2008 8:27 am
by antszy101
I believe that in TCMC's skin for Burial Mounds he had slippery ice...
Not sure how though. But is possible
Posted: Thu Mar 20, 2008 12:58 pm
by Ar7ific1al
Okay, I see. When I finally finish a mod using this, bumlove, I'll make sure to put exactly this in the credits: "bumlove, for the piece of the SBSP plugin, and xzodia and demonicsandwich for motivating bumlove" lol oh, btw, bumlove, switching the ground material with ice didn't make it slippery for bipeds, and I didn't notice any change in how the warthog handles (even with 14% ground friction lol), but I did notice this: if you take the ghost or spectre and drive it up the side of the mountain behind blue base, and get out, it will SLIDE tremendously! lol it's fun to play with =P
I'm sad to say this, guys, but the mod for Zanzibar has to stop, for one very good reason: the scenery, such as concrete chunks, trees, and rocks, can not be removed! Antarctica doesn't have random rocks and trees and chunks of concrete stickin up outta the ground lol so I have to move on to a different map, and hopefully keep the same theme: ice lol but I could to somethin else, if anyone has any suggestions, please, feel free to PM me your ideas
Posted: Thu Mar 20, 2008 1:01 pm
by Aumaan Anubis
Ar7ific1al wrote:Antarctica doesn't have random rocks and trees and chunks of concrete stickin up outta the ground lol so I have to move on to a different map, and hopefully keep the same theme: ice lol but I could to somethin else, if anyone has any suggestions, please, feel free to PM me your ideas
You can try placing a large mach over them. Then skin it so that it looks like a huge block of ice.
I'm pretty sure that Antarctica has ice...
Posted: Thu Mar 20, 2008 1:04 pm
by Ar7ific1al
lmao of course it does! =P lol I don't really know what you mean, "place OVER them" lol sorry =P but I kinda mean ideas for other maps? =P I had one, for Sanctuary, though... make it look like a ravaged battle field lol but I'd need extreme help with that mod... especially in the skinning area of expertise =P Anubis, if you're a decent modder, you could help me lol I could use some help -.-
Posted: Thu Mar 20, 2008 1:07 pm
by NotZachary82
an arctic ascension would be pretty cool, if you add water and model some glaciers.
Posted: Thu Mar 20, 2008 1:14 pm
by Ar7ific1al
That's the thing, you see. lol I'm not at all good at making models, I wouldn't even know where to start =P and uhh I ask for help, no one offers to join the project, so from the looks of it I'm on my own for the projects I come up with lol I've sent a message to Turk, cuz my friend knows Turk and worked pretty closely with him there for a long time, so I just gotta wait and see if he replies, one of these days... lol I'll say this again: if ANYONE would like to join me in my modding project, PLEASE PM ME lol