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Didn't the Pillar of Autumn go boom?
Posted: Thu May 17, 2007 4:29 pm
by XBC-Requiem
Posted: Thu May 17, 2007 4:34 pm
by Shadow LAG
Its probably just a cinematic don't worry about it. good find.
Posted: Thu May 17, 2007 5:10 pm
by JacksonCougAr
Probably Bungie being lazy again, lol.
Posted: Thu May 17, 2007 5:37 pm
by Aumaan Anubis
try to spawn it in a map, then try to fly into it and see if it's really the old pillar of autumn

Posted: Thu May 17, 2007 5:41 pm
by XBC-Requiem
I opened up the model of it... it's too long, it's got missing pieces (such as the large cylinder on the side with the Marathon symbol), and other parts are out-of-scale, such as the thrusters on the rear. Not to mention, it has practically no detail...
There are no under-side front shields, there's an extra gun on the bottom... It has missing tanks, it's out of shape... simply put, it's not even a Marathon-class cruiser... there's WAY too much wrong with it. I don't know what class that it is, to be honest.
Posted: Thu May 17, 2007 5:46 pm
by Aumaan Anubis
you go inside of it?
Posted: Thu May 17, 2007 5:49 pm
by XBC-Requiem
Did I go inside of it? Well, in the model viewer, you start out looking at it from the inside. It's hollowed out... it's not like they made the ship or anything. It just strikes me as odd that they put the Pillar of Autumn, which was clearly destroyed, into Halo 2, and not only that, but the ship that they put in isn't even the same class as the POA...
Posted: Thu May 17, 2007 5:56 pm
by Aumaan Anubis
dang, sorta hopin that they left the ship as it was. ah, well, it is sorta weird though that they put it in.
Posted: Thu May 17, 2007 6:29 pm
by JacksonCougAr
Not really; I think it was used as scenery in singleplayer.
Oh and parts of collision work, others do not, basically collision is fuxed up, and the inside though visible in Entity is only a black void! So much for my mod idea...Good sky scenery though.
EDIT: oh and its not called the pillar of autumn in the game--its the ship that Keyes pilots out of new/old Mombasa and to Delta Halo...
Posted: Thu May 17, 2007 6:40 pm
by -Treetoad-
JacksonCougAr wrote:
Oh and parts of collision work
Just curious, around where does the collision work?
Posted: Thu May 17, 2007 6:42 pm
by Sgt.Peppers
It's scenery from the first level.
Posted: Thu May 17, 2007 8:58 pm
by Nemihara
Isn't that from the Heretic cinematic, where the Arbiter says "It was called the Pillar of Autumn"? Also, methought that in the same level, they briefly show a cruiser ship that looks just like it pass by when that old guy tells MC to defend the station.
EDIT:
oh and its not called the pillar of autumn in the game--its the ship that Keyes pilots out of new/old Mombasa and to Delta Halo...
Wasn't it called something like In Amber Clad?
Posted: Thu May 17, 2007 9:57 pm
by JacksonCougAr
There we go: lots of those ships in Halo 2 actually: lol: I guess you don't really take it in though.
Posted: Fri May 18, 2007 8:49 am
by XBC-Requiem
No, the In Amber Clad was a completely different ship. It's much smaller, and it is actually docked with Cairo Station. You see it various times: When you first go outside of Cairo Station, when it follows the Covenant craft that jumps away from Earth, when the Flood commandeer it...
I understand that it is used as scenery, but it is not even the Pillar of Autumn, so I fail to understand why it is called the Pillar of Autumn when, not only is it NOT the POA, but it's not even the same class of UNSC cruiser. I believe that this ship is a Maraton-class, while the Pillar of Autumn is a Halcyon-class. Although I cannot gurantee 100% accuracy on this, I believe that, beyond most doubts in my mind, this ship is a Marathon-class.
JacksonCougAr wrote:EDIT: oh and its not called the pillar of autumn in the game--its the ship that Keyes pilots out of new/old Mombasa and to Delta Halo...
What you are referring to is the FFG-142 In Amber Clad, which is a much smaller ship, which is a
frigate, much smaller than a Marathon- or Halcyon-class cruiser, based on the designation "FFG" and details in Halo 2 and the books.
Posted: Fri May 18, 2007 8:57 am
by JacksonCougAr
Your right: I was thinking of the ship in the background of the image, far right side.
Posted: Fri May 18, 2007 12:58 pm
by uncutshadow
Sgt.Peppers wrote:It's scenery from the first level.
correct. it is from the scenery from the first level
Posted: Fri May 18, 2007 1:36 pm
by XBC-Requiem
Regardless, it is called the Pillar of Autumn, and it's not even the same class.
Posted: Fri May 18, 2007 1:54 pm
by Jam_Cliche
It looks enough like the original to pass as the Pillar of Autumn. Considering it only showed up for a minor second, I don't think they need to include that much detail in it. In other words, same as post 3. Bungie was lazy.
Besides, if you ask me, it really does look like a
Halcyon-class vessel
You know what? I take that back. That really is a crappy rehash of the PoA.
Posted: Fri May 18, 2007 2:13 pm
by XBC-Requiem
Jam_Cliche wrote:You know what? I take that back. That really is a crappy rehash of the PoA.
I'm glad that you changed your mind. I thought that I was going to have to point out the numerous differences!
:)
Posted: Sun May 20, 2007 8:08 pm
by smokey
I think that mayhave been the ship that they watched blow up...from the covenant bomb. Just a guess...