Need to know how to batch extract a CE map

chicken nob · Post by **chicken nob** » Tue Jun 21, 2005 6:45 am

Does anybody know how i can convert Halo CE maps to PC (not to play them, just to open them in HMT or HHT) but then batch extract and stuff like that? or, i know there is an HMT for CE. If anybody can PM it to me, i will be greatful.

if you have anything like a tag converter or a tag extractor can you please PM me?

Please help me

Patrickssj6 · Post by **Patrickssj6** » Tue Jun 21, 2005 10:36 am

there is a tool wich lets you concvert...searching......http://halo2.filefront.com/file/Halo_Ma ... rter;41018

infamouslink · Post by **infamouslink** » Tue Jun 21, 2005 5:18 pm

u wanna rip dont you.........

chicken nob · Post by **chicken nob** » Tue Jun 21, 2005 6:33 pm

No I dont wanna rip. I want to add an Elite Biped from A10 (Pillar of Autumn) to a bunch of maps I am remaking, so you can play as an elite.

Oh, and um, the Halo Map Version Converter is trash. It sucks so badly it should of never been released.

[users]axem · Post by **[users]axem** » Thu Jun 23, 2005 5:03 pm

Chicken, You will NOT get a tag converter/extracter. You wont get any elite tags converted for you either. And I dont make the rules. I follow them though.

You cant batch extract Halo CE Maps because Halo CE uses a really diffrrent source code and HMT or HHT will not extract the maps because they cant read the full source code. You will get a BS error like "Not enough Memory." And I dont think HMTCE is out yet. (Ive been gone latly)

Peace

P.S. Dont ask why we wont give you the tag converter because its private, and we wont give you any tags because we wont.

chicken nob · Post by **chicken nob** » Fri Jun 24, 2005 9:33 am

Chicken, You will NOT get a tag converter/extracter. You wont get any elite tags converted for you either. And I dont make the rules. I follow them though.

You cant batch extract Halo CE Maps because Halo CE uses a really diffrrent source code and HMT or HHT will not extract the maps because they cant read the full source code. You will get a BS error like "Not enough Memory." And I dont think HMTCE is out yet. (Ive been gone latly)

Peace

P.S. Dont ask why we wont give you the tag converter because its private, and we wont give you any tags because we wont.

Whoa there calm ur hemhorroids.
I just wanted to get an elite tag. I dont know why you flipped out.

Phenomena · Post by **Phenomena** » Fri Jun 24, 2005 10:05 am

because there self centered bastards who wants to keep the PC tags to themselves

[users]axem · Post by **[users]axem** » Fri Jun 24, 2005 2:08 pm

Phenomena wrote:because there self centered bastards who wants to keep the PC tags to themselves

Iam not self centered. I made a promise that I wouldn't give anyone tags.personaly, I would give a less powerfull converter out if I made the converter in the first place

I wasnt flipping out either, Its just that people hardly read all the post about tag converters.

Phenomena · Post by **Phenomena** » Fri Jun 24, 2005 2:56 pm

meh i get my tags from lightning

drworm · Post by **drworm** » Tue Jun 28, 2005 10:04 am

*Lightning's PM box overflows* Well... I understand why people don't want rippers to come steal Halo CE tags, but why won't they just create a tag package of all the SP tags (ok it would be a few gigs, but do a few tags at a time) and release THAT? Then everybody could put Elites in Wraiths in their maps and they'd shut up. If I could have two things for Halo CE, it would be the bipeds from SP and scripting support. And some people have both. Most of them are unwilling to share the first and I haven't really asked around about the second.

Phenomena · Post by **Phenomena** » Tue Jun 28, 2005 10:10 am

cause converting tags isnt just clikcing a few buttons (well im sure it is but thats not thep oint

) from what i here the converter is quite buggy and it takes time to extract certain thingd like bsps

drworm · Post by **drworm** » Tue Jun 28, 2005 3:46 pm

Yes but a good number of things (i'm mostly interested in bipds as i said before) have ALREADY been extracted for somebody else's map. For example, the desertplat map had Hunters, Grunts, Normal Elites (I think), Stealth Elites, SpecOp Elites (the black ones), etc. The AI for the Hunters (or their fuel rod guns) was a little messed, but other than that it was awesome. Why can't whoever made that map (too lazy to look up his/her name) release all of those tags??

[users]axem · Post by **[users]axem** » Wed Jun 29, 2005 11:24 am

Kornman00.
Hes in with Steel.
He helped make the converter I think.

gecko753 · Post by **gecko753** » Wed Jun 29, 2005 1:59 pm

yea its too bad about all of this. most of us just want some tags from sp maps and such. theres not many people who would want to rip things from other people's maps. seriously, think about it. if someone rips something and claims it as their own, theres already the released map with the original content, so theres proof that that person who ripped it didnt make it.

and to take a more outside view of this, well... its a game people... maybe if u painted a picture and someone stole it and sold it, then you could be mad. but these maps and such make no money. you distribute the maps to the public. your intent is supposed to be to make something fun. of course, theres groups of people who are too self-centered and just consider map making as a way to show off. but hey, for all of us normal people, all that doesnt matter. those are usually the people who are so concerned with rippers. they want everyone to know that they and only they made some model in a map that they gave you. i can only think of a few reasons why they do that. either they plan on using it for something important, like a portfolio, or to sell... or they just want to show off. if they are doing the 1st one... well... why would they put it into a map and release it to the masses anyways?

so for the few people who would use a tag converter to rip stuff... go for it. all of these maps have been made by normal people who are giving their creations to the public for our enjoyment. they cant expect to have some sort of immortality just because of some creation that offers no real profit or even any real fame.

but while these few want to rip stuff to pretend like they are known by others, the rest of us would only use some kinda of ripper to learn. i personally would like to get some stuff out of the maps bungie has made in order to learn how they are constructed. if i were to get something from a map created by another random guy, it would probably be just to see how they did something.

ok well enough from me. i get all mad when i see people pretending to have some sort of superiority just because they created something. we all have equal potential.

so basically, lighten up people

oh yea and none of this is flame. its not directed at anyone in particular. no rly. its not.

[users]axem · Post by **[users]axem** » Wed Jun 29, 2005 5:59 pm

See the converter CAN be used to do illegal stuff. Thats the problem. Theres other problems but if stated some strupid flame/spam war would start. But despite that,

It is to powerfull for public use.

Know notice the quotes. You cant blame me for thisn those who want to create a war.

gecko753 · Post by **gecko753** » Wed Jun 29, 2005 8:04 pm

haha yea flame wars start up here way too easily.

but what do u mean by too powerful for public use? what do u think people could use it for? i know they could steal other peoples work from maps, but hey, theres no money involved. i dont know much about laws and such, but i dont think that any of those no reverse engineering laws apply to the maps posted.

again.. not to flame. just wanted to know what u mean by powerful

drworm · Post by **drworm** » Fri Jul 01, 2005 11:27 am

The part that really gets me is that a lot of tags already HAVE been converted and now some of the better modders and programmers enjoy everybody coming to them to kiss their shoes and beg for tags. Then they can say "converting tags is easier than recompiling a map," and refuse to give out tags that aren't even theirs in the first place! Bungie made them and Bungie didn't say "well HMT is too powerful for the masses." (Yes yes I know that Bungie didn't make HMT, but they could sue the crap out of Mono if they wanted). Instead, they said "Modders draw more people to Halo. Let's help the modders." Okay, I've gotten off topic. If you don't want to release the converter, fine by me. But please please just release some tags you've already converted from SP. The modding community will become a better place. *insert standard anti-flame disclamer here*