Players fall through the floor.

[Scorpwanna]

I just started mapping like a week ago and have a basic indoor type map that I'm continuing to work on. A recent compile and test seems that in a certain location in the map my player just falls through the floor into the empty void and dies. This is what the tool command shows when i run structure

Couldn't read map file './toolbeta.map'
building intermediate geometry...
### WARNING found #15 degenerate triangles.
building collision geometry...
reducing collision geometry...
building collision bsp...
### ERROR found z buffered triangles (red).
### WARNING found nearly coplanar surfaces (red and green).
reducing collision bsp...
verifying collision geometry...
verifying collision bsp...
building portals...
building render geometry...
### WARNING: a surface clipped to no leaves (see cyan in error geometry).
### WARNING: a surface clipped to no leaves (see cyan in error geometry).
### WARNING: a surface clipped to no leaves (see cyan in error geometry).
### WARNING: a surface clipped to no leaves (see cyan in error geometry).
### WARNING: a surface clipped to no leaves (see cyan in error geometry).
### WARNING: a surface clipped to no leaves (see cyan in error geometry).
### WARNING: a surface clipped to no leaves (see cyan in error geometry).
### WARNING: a surface clipped to no leaves (see cyan in error geometry).
### WARNING: a surface clipped to no leaves (see cyan in error geometry).
### WARNING: a surface clipped to no leaves (see cyan in error geometry).
### WARNING: a surface clipped to no leaves (see cyan in error geometry).
### WARNING: a surface clipped to no leaves (see cyan in error geometry).
### WARNING: a surface clipped to no leaves (see cyan in error geometry).
### WARNING: a surface clipped to no leaves (see cyan in error geometry).
### WARNING: a surface clipped to no leaves (see cyan in error geometry).
### WARNING: a surface clipped to no leaves (see cyan in error geometry).
### WARNING: a surface clipped to no leaves (see cyan in error geometry).
### WARNING: a surface clipped to no leaves (see cyan in error geometry).
### WARNING: a surface clipped to no leaves (see cyan in error geometry).
### WARNING: a surface clipped to no leaves (see cyan in error geometry).
### WARNING: a surface clipped to no leaves (see cyan in error geometry).
### WARNING: a surface clipped to no leaves (see cyan in error geometry).
### WARNING: a surface clipped to no leaves (see cyan in error geometry).
### WARNING: a surface clipped to no leaves (see cyan in error geometry).
### WARNING: a surface clipped to no leaves (see cyan in error geometry).
### WARNING: a surface clipped to no leaves (see cyan in error geometry).
### WARNING: a surface clipped to no leaves (see cyan in error geometry).
### WARNING: a surface clipped to no leaves (see cyan in error geometry).
### WARNING: a surface clipped to no leaves (see cyan in error geometry).
### WARNING: a surface clipped to no leaves (see cyan in error geometry).
### WARNING: a surface clipped to no leaves (see cyan in error geometry).
### WARNING: a surface clipped to no leaves (see cyan in error geometry).
### WARNING: a surface clipped to no leaves (see cyan in error geometry).
### WARNING: a surface clipped to no leaves (see cyan in error geometry).
### WARNING: a surface clipped to no leaves (see cyan in error geometry).
### WARNING: a surface clipped to no leaves (see cyan in error geometry).
### WARNING: a surface clipped to no leaves (see cyan in error geometry).
### WARNING: a surface clipped to no leaves (see cyan in error geometry).
### WARNING: a surface clipped to no leaves (see cyan in error geometry).
### WARNING: a surface clipped to no leaves (see cyan in error geometry).
### WARNING: a surface clipped to no leaves (see cyan in error geometry).
### WARNING: a surface clipped to no leaves (see cyan in error geometry).
### WARNING: a surface clipped to no leaves (see cyan in error geometry).
### WARNING: a surface clipped to no leaves (see cyan in error geometry).
### WARNING: a surface clipped to no leaves (see cyan in error geometry).
### WARNING: a surface clipped to no leaves (see cyan in error geometry).
### WARNING: a surface clipped to no leaves (see cyan in error geometry).
### WARNING: a surface clipped to no leaves (see cyan in error geometry).
### WARNING: a surface clipped to no leaves (see cyan in error geometry).
### WARNING: a surface clipped to no leaves (see cyan in error geometry).
### WARNING: a surface clipped to no leaves (see cyan in error geometry).
### WARNING: a surface clipped to no leaves (see cyan in error geometry).
### WARNING: a surface clipped to no leaves (see cyan in error geometry).
### WARNING: a surface clipped to no leaves (see cyan in error geometry).
### WARNING: a surface clipped to no leaves (see cyan in error geometry).
### WARNING: a surface clipped to no leaves (see cyan in error geometry).
### WARNING: a surface clipped to no leaves (see cyan in error geometry).
### WARNING: a surface clipped to no leaves (see cyan in error geometry).
### WARNING: a surface clipped to no leaves (see cyan in error geometry).
### WARNING: a surface clipped to no leaves (see cyan in error geometry).
### WARNING: a surface clipped to no leaves (see cyan in error geometry).
### WARNING: a surface clipped to no leaves (see cyan in error geometry).
### WARNING: a surface clipped to no leaves (see cyan in error geometry).
### WARNING: a surface clipped to no leaves (see cyan in error geometry).
### WARNING: a surface clipped to no leaves (see cyan in error geometry).
### WARNING: a surface clipped to no leaves (see cyan in error geometry).
### WARNING: a surface clipped to no leaves (see cyan in error geometry).
### WARNING: a surface clipped to no leaves (see cyan in error geometry).
### WARNING: a surface clipped to no leaves (see cyan in error geometry).
### WARNING: a surface clipped to no leaves (see cyan in error geometry).
### WARNING: a surface clipped to no leaves (see cyan in error geometry).
### WARNING: a surface clipped to no leaves (see cyan in error geometry).
### WARNING: a surface clipped to no leaves (see cyan in error geometry).
### WARNING: a surface clipped to no leaves (see cyan in error geometry).
### WARNING: a surface clipped to no leaves (see cyan in error geometry).
### WARNING: a surface clipped to no leaves (see cyan in error geometry).
### WARNING: a surface clipped to no leaves (see cyan in error geometry).
### WARNING: a surface clipped to no leaves (see cyan in error geometry).
### WARNING: a surface clipped to no leaves (see cyan in error geometry).
### WARNING: a surface clipped to no leaves (see cyan in error geometry).
### WARNING: a surface clipped to no leaves (see cyan in error geometry).
### WARNING: a surface clipped to no leaves (see cyan in error geometry).
### WARNING: a surface clipped to no leaves (see cyan in error geometry).
### WARNING: a surface clipped to no leaves (see cyan in error geometry).
### WARNING: a surface clipped to no leaves (see cyan in error geometry).
### WARNING: a surface clipped to no leaves (see cyan in error geometry).
### WARNING: a surface clipped to no leaves (see cyan in error geometry).
### WARNING: a surface clipped to no leaves (see cyan in error geometry).
### WARNING: a surface clipped to no leaves (see cyan in error geometry).
### WARNING: a surface clipped to no leaves (see cyan in error geometry).
### WARNING: a surface clipped to no leaves (see cyan in error geometry).
### WARNING: a surface clipped to no leaves (see cyan in error geometry).
### WARNING: a surface clipped to no leaves (see cyan in error geometry).
### WARNING: a surface clipped to no leaves (see cyan in error geometry).
### WARNING: a surface clipped to no leaves (see cyan in error geometry).
### WARNING: a surface clipped to no leaves (see cyan in error geometry).
### WARNING: a surface clipped to no leaves (see cyan in error geometry).
### WARNING: a surface clipped to no leaves (see cyan in error geometry).
### WARNING: a surface clipped to no leaves (see cyan in error geometry).
### WARNING: a surface clipped to no leaves (see cyan in error geometry).
### WARNING: a surface clipped to no leaves (see cyan in error geometry).
### WARNING: a surface clipped to no leaves (see cyan in error geometry).
### WARNING: a surface clipped to no leaves (see cyan in error geometry).
### WARNING: a surface clipped to no leaves (see cyan in error geometry).
### WARNING: a surface clipped to no leaves (see cyan in error geometry).
### WARNING: a surface clipped to no leaves (see cyan in error geometry).
### WARNING: a surface clipped to no leaves (see cyan in error geometry).
### WARNING: a surface clipped to no leaves (see cyan in error geometry).
### WARNING: a surface clipped to no leaves (see cyan in error geometry).
### WARNING: a surface clipped to no leaves (see cyan in error geometry).
### WARNING: a surface clipped to no leaves (see cyan in error geometry).
### WARNING: a surface clipped to no leaves (see cyan in error geometry).
### WARNING: a surface clipped to no leaves (see cyan in error geometry).
### WARNING: a surface clipped to no leaves (see cyan in error geometry).
### WARNING: a surface clipped to no leaves (see cyan in error geometry).
### WARNING: a surface clipped to no leaves (see cyan in error geometry).
### WARNING: a surface clipped to no leaves (see cyan in error geometry).
### WARNING: a surface clipped to no leaves (see cyan in error geometry).
### WARNING: a surface clipped to no leaves (see cyan in error geometry).
### WARNING: a surface clipped to no leaves (see cyan in error geometry).
### WARNING: a surface clipped to no leaves (see cyan in error geometry).
### WARNING: a surface clipped to no leaves (see cyan in error geometry).
### WARNING: a surface clipped to no leaves (see cyan in error geometry).
### WARNING: a surface clipped to no leaves (see cyan in error geometry).
### WARNING: a surface clipped to no leaves (see cyan in error geometry).
### WARNING: a surface clipped to no leaves (see cyan in error geometry).
### WARNING: a surface clipped to no leaves (see cyan in error geometry).
### WARNING: a surface clipped to no leaves (see cyan in error geometry).
### WARNING: a surface clipped to no leaves (see cyan in error geometry).
### WARNING: a surface clipped to no leaves (see cyan in error geometry).
### WARNING: a surface clipped to no leaves (see cyan in error geometry).
### WARNING: a surface clipped to no leaves (see cyan in error geometry).
### WARNING: a surface clipped to no leaves (see cyan in error geometry).
### WARNING: a surface clipped to no leaves (see cyan in error geometry).
### WARNING: a surface clipped to no leaves (see cyan in error geometry).
### WARNING: a surface clipped to no leaves (see cyan in error geometry).
### WARNING: a surface clipped to no leaves (see cyan in error geometry).
### WARNING: a surface clipped to no leaves (see cyan in error geometry).
### WARNING: a surface clipped to no leaves (see cyan in error geometry).
### WARNING: a surface clipped to no leaves (see cyan in error geometry).
### WARNING: a surface clipped to no leaves (see cyan in error geometry).
### WARNING: a surface clipped to no leaves (see cyan in error geometry).
### WARNING: a surface clipped to no leaves (see cyan in error geometry).
### WARNING: a surface clipped to no leaves (see cyan in error geometry).
### WARNING: a surface clipped to no leaves (see cyan in error geometry).
### WARNING: a surface clipped to no leaves (see cyan in error geometry).
### WARNING: a surface clipped to no leaves (see cyan in error geometry).
### WARNING: a surface clipped to no leaves (see cyan in error geometry).
### WARNING: a surface clipped to no leaves (see cyan in error geometry).
### WARNING: a surface clipped to no leaves (see cyan in error geometry).
### WARNING: a surface clipped to no leaves (see cyan in error geometry).
### WARNING: a surface clipped to no leaves (see cyan in error geometry).
### WARNING: a surface clipped to no leaves (see cyan in error geometry).
### WARNING: a surface clipped to no leaves (see cyan in error geometry).
### WARNING: a surface clipped to no leaves (see cyan in error geometry).
### WARNING: a surface clipped to no leaves (see cyan in error geometry).
### WARNING: a surface clipped to no leaves (see cyan in error geometry).
### WARNING: a surface clipped to no leaves (see cyan in error geometry).
### WARNING: a surface clipped to no leaves (see cyan in error geometry).
### WARNING: a surface clipped to no leaves (see cyan in error geometry).
### WARNING: a surface clipped to no leaves (see cyan in error geometry).
### WARNING: a surface clipped to no leaves (see cyan in error geometry).
### WARNING: a surface clipped to no leaves (see cyan in error geometry).
### WARNING: a surface clipped to no leaves (see cyan in error geometry).
### WARNING: a surface clipped to no leaves (see cyan in error geometry).
### WARNING: a surface clipped to no leaves (see cyan in error geometry).
### WARNING: a surface clipped to no leaves (see cyan in error geometry).
### WARNING: a surface clipped to no leaves (see cyan in error geometry).
### WARNING: a surface clipped to no leaves (see cyan in error geometry).
### WARNING: a surface clipped to no leaves (see cyan in error geometry).
### WARNING: a surface clipped to no leaves (see cyan in error geometry).
### WARNING: a surface clipped to no leaves (see cyan in error geometry).
### WARNING: a surface clipped to no leaves (see cyan in error geometry).
### WARNING: a surface clipped to no leaves (see cyan in error geometry).
### WARNING: a surface clipped to no leaves (see cyan in error geometry).
### WARNING: a surface clipped to no leaves (see cyan in error geometry).
### WARNING: a surface clipped to no leaves (see cyan in error geometry).
building subclusters...
building pvs... building pvs... building structure lens flares...done


structure bsp "levels\blah\blah"
BSP has 13009 nodes, 7359 leaves
18870 surfaces and 26602 vertices in 21 material groups
0 portals, 1 clusters

1391Kb collision data (149Kb vertices, 502Kb edges, 140Kb surfaces)
1751Kb render data (1059Kb vertices, 408Kb surfaces,
191Kb nodes/leaves, 86Kb clusters)
0Kb pathfinding data
----------------------
3487Kb (without debug information)

C:\program files\microsoft games\halo custom edition>

I know these warnings don't stop the build process, I've even imported teh wrl file and saw where it think's the problem is. But I don't know how to fix it as I don't understand wtf leaves are. In the area it appears to have a problem, I made sure that there are no holes, everthing is connected to vertex's no gaps it's flawless in 3dsmax. I dunno if "coplanar surfaces" is causing any kind of problem, it's shown up in every compile I've had and I've never fallen through the floor until this object I recently added "bar piping around a stairwell". Before this object I added I got maybe 6 "no leave" warnings and had never fell through the floor in that spot. So what I'm asking is, first what are these no leave things, and 2 are they causing the floor to not really be there?

[metkillerjoe]

I'm surprised that Sapien didn't bug you about these errors .

Open your map and simply import yourmapname.wrl from the Halo CE root directory. Use the HEK tutorial you got to find out what the errors mean. The use the tutorial for error correction found on Halomaps.org to correct them.

[Scorpwanna]

Not to be rude but i've already done teh wrl thing . It shows things but things which i know aren't messed up at all. Zoomed in as far as i can at vertex's shows no problems in 3dsmax. It's not errors it's warnings, and most people say they are harmless or well what i've been reading. The tutorial I found as helpful as needing a quarter for a gumball when you only have a penny. But this leaves thing I don't get, Take for example, before i made these bars for a stairwell. I would maybe have like 5 little lines in 3dsmax when id view the wrl file. Nothign to huge no triangles etc... I made the bars, now i get these, and the bars I know are all solid with no 2 edges of something else colliding. I hide the bars and i get only a few of those warnings, I look and it appears that random areas have just popped up with these cyan error places. And whats with that anyway, it tells me theres all these cyan color errors and i only have like 2 triangles in the whole map that are cyan. Does it randomly generate colors too? I dunno about the experienced halo mappers out there but I think tool is a little to picky with some things.

[striderdude]

When this happens to me, I just save the different things as different files, (stairs, bases, map, etc), then start over. Import the files you made, and add them ^*#%^&$#$%REALLY^^%$&*^%$ Close to the actual map itself, that way when you try to delete the faces to attach an object, you dont miss.

I cheat at modeling