HMC help

willtheoct · Post by **willtheoct** » Sat Dec 08, 2007 9:39 am

HMC(halo map converter) converts maps to trial and ce and full. anyway, i made a map for the full version, and when i convert it to trial, it just corrupts the map. HMT cant open it, neither can halo. i PMIed some sentinels, flood infections, flood carriers, human flood, hunters, and cd guns, and it all works in the full version.

how do i convert it to trial without corrupting the file?

bcnipod · Post by **bcnipod** » Sat Dec 08, 2007 9:54 am

was it a CE map?

willtheoct · Post by **willtheoct** » Sat Dec 08, 2007 10:08 am

halo: combat evolved for the pc. is the custom edition the same as combat evolved?

bcnipod · Post by **bcnipod** » Sat Dec 08, 2007 10:10 am

no. was the map you were converting to Trial a CE map or a PC map?

willtheoct · Post by **willtheoct** » Sat Dec 08, 2007 10:14 am

PC. i said that 3 times.

bcnipod · Post by **bcnipod** » Sat Dec 08, 2007 10:21 am

then the bitmaps might be corrupt already, try using a fresh file.

DeadHamster · Post by **DeadHamster** » Sat Dec 08, 2007 10:42 am

Well if it all works in the full version let's keep it that way.

If you plan on releasing that mod on this site, prepared to be banned, it's illegal to put anything that's not in the Trial version of Halo into the Trial Version.

The Trial version had no flood or sentinels, putting them in is bad.

And If you have full, why put that stuff in trial?

willtheoct · Post by **willtheoct** » Sat Dec 08, 2007 10:49 am

its not for public release. my friend has the trial, he doesnt want to get the full version, but if i make a new mod he really wants to play. plus its fun to have loads of flood carriers.

anyway, is there a way to convert to trial without corrupting the map?

EDIT: another problem: how do i set teams for the AI?

DeadHamster · Post by **DeadHamster** » Sat Dec 08, 2007 11:11 am

So instead of having him buy the game, or at least lending it to him, your circumventing the entire purpose of the Trial version being to evaluate some parts of the game before buying it, and simply giving him the things he wants.

Have fun figuring this out. I really don't approve of people ripping content, so I'm not going to help any. It's fine if you want to do it, but I'm not gonna help you. Sorry.

And I'm pretty sure that HMC just converts the Headers, and not the maps.

Mr.Brightside · Post by **Mr.Brightside** » Sat Dec 08, 2007 11:20 am

DeadHamster wrote:So instead of having him buy the game, or at least lending it to him, your circumventing the entire purpose of the Trial version being to evaluate some parts of the game before buying it, and simply giving him the things he wants.

Have fun figuring this out. I really don't approve of people ripping content, so I'm not going to help any. It's fine if you want to do it, but I'm not gonna help you. Sorry.

And I'm pretty sure that HMC just converts the Headers, and not the maps.

That is the stupidest statement i've heard in my life.
He's not ripping anything.

Ripping is when you take other modders' tags and don't give them credit.

Hes just regularly modding, using PMI. that's what everybody does when they mod, is taking stuff from donor maps.

so your against that?
wow.
that's dumb.

DeadHamster · Post by **DeadHamster** » Sat Dec 08, 2007 11:26 am

How about you STFU and stop flaming me dipshit?

He is ripping tags from full, and putting them into a trial map. If you think ripping means taking tags from another mod and putting it into yours, then your retarded.

Haven't you ever heard of ripping files from other games? Like taking a model out of Call of Duty, and putting it into Halo (Example, dont flame if it wouldn't work.) So how does that fit into your definition exactly? Oh that's right, it doesn't. STFU

So you're telling me your all for taking tags from the full version of Halo and putting them into Trial where they weren't originally? That's good for you. I happen to be against it. Thats my opinion, if you don't like it, STFU and leave it alone. Don't tell me my opinion is dumb, If that's how you feel that's great, keep it to yourself, and go about your business.

UntalkativeBunny · Post by **UntalkativeBunny** » Sat Dec 08, 2007 11:46 am

Don't even PMI Halo Full data to Trial...you WILL get banned if you post the mod here.

willtheoct · Post by **willtheoct** » Sat Dec 08, 2007 11:47 am

okay, stop giving traces of flaming. but then, technically PMIing is illegal, because youre taking things from a campaign and putting it into multiplayer. all those videos of new mods on youtube is basically a confession. i know its "just not the same", but would microsoft really care? would my friend buy the full version of halo? another guy says he should get it off of ares, and he'll probably do that.

actually, now that i think of it, that is a pretty stupid statement. no offense, but it is.

anyway, how do i set the AI teams?

whats a header?

how do i convert maps?

you said STFU 3 times, say it once.

bunny, we went over that. but how was BYOM made?

UntalkativeBunny · Post by **UntalkativeBunny** » Sat Dec 08, 2007 11:55 am

Yes, PMI'ing is technically illegal, same goes with modding in general. But obviously Microsoft doesn't care or they would be doing something about it by now. Full>Trial is illegal, and the Staff on Halomods don't really like it.

And to answer your questions,

Setting the AI's teams requires making a custom edition map, then converting it over to PC.

A header is the string of code at the top of a map which identifies it's type, like is it PC Full? or PC Trial for example, and has the map name in it also. Just open a map in a Hex Editor and you will see.

Converting maps is easy with the new released program. This only works with converting Custom Edition maps to PC version.
http://forums.halomods.com/viewtopic.php?t=72129

Mr.Brightside · Post by **Mr.Brightside** » Sat Dec 08, 2007 12:24 pm

DeadHamster wrote:How about you STFU and stop flaming me ***?

He is ripping tags from full, and putting them into a trial map. If you think ripping means taking tags from another mod and putting it into yours, then your retarded.

Haven't you ever heard of ripping files from other games? Like taking a model out of Call of Duty, and putting it into Halo (Example, dont flame if it wouldn't work.) So how does that fit into your definition exactly? Oh that's right, it doesn't. STFU

So you're telling me your all for taking tags from the full version of Halo and putting them into Trial where they weren't originally? That's good for you. I happen to be against it. Thats my opinion, if you don't like it, STFU and leave it alone. Don't tell me my opinion is dumb, If that's how you feel that's great, keep it to yourself, and go about your business.

That was the biggest flame i've ever seen. good job.

Wow, those 5 or 6 "OMGZ STFU D00d **" statements of yours actually made me laugh. Now tell me the reason why you have to be immature and act like a pissed off 8 year old when we were having a logical conversation?

Sorry if i hurt your feelings or whatever. Maybe you should grow up and stop getting infuriated over text on the internet?

DeadHamster · Post by **DeadHamster** » Sat Dec 08, 2007 12:37 pm

You didn't hurt my feelings. I dont get upset over internet people.

That is the stupidest statement i've heard in my life.
He's not ripping anything.

Ripping is when you take other modders' tags and don't give them credit.

Hes just regularly modding, using PMI. that's what everybody does when they mod, is taking stuff from donor maps.

so your against that?
wow.
that's dumb.

That's a logical conversation to you?

---That is the stupidest statement i've heard in my life.---

So your saying I just said something extremely stupid. I take that personally.

---so your against that?
wow.
that's dumb.---

And now your calling my opinion dumb?

You have really bad people skills. Just because you know more than somebody else, or you have differing opinions doesn't mean you attack them for it. There's no need for the hostility you have, I posted my thoughts and opinions, which I am entitled to. Just because you don't agree with them does not mean that you have to say they're stupid.

So stop posting flame-bait, and maybe try acting a little nicer towards people, and this kind of crap won't happen.

[On Topic]
The BYOM map was made by Phenomena and 'Sword PMI-ing tags that were in the Trial Campagin using a version of HMT that they hex-edited the hell out of. There are no things in the BYOM map that weren't somewhere in halo trial, so it's fine to post on the site

Yes, all modding is illegal, but Putting Full tags into trial is illegal on the site. That's what I was referring to.

The Header is the beginning hex code of the map that tells what it is. All PC maps have the same header, all CE do, and all Trial maps do. If you convert a Trial Header to PC, you can open it in PC tools, A CE map to PC, you can open it with PC tools.

Even if

Tural · Post by **Tural** » Sat Dec 08, 2007 12:42 pm

Constant arguing got this topic locked. Furthermore, regardless of "Will Microsoft care?," it isn't allowed here. Using retail content in a trial version of the game isn't permitted on this site.