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{G}H0g-Jump4h · Post by **{G}H0g-Jump4h** » Wed Apr 14, 2004 5:41 pm

Pwn4g3 wrote:Have fun with the seekfailed error, it seems for now we can't do any BSP thats named b or after, only the a's seem to work. And I dunno if a30 A even works, some prob with outdoor BSPs...

why did you say that? i am in the process of converting right now. (2-3 minutes left... i just have to do the final build). o well.... i did EXACTLY what the thing said. word for word. lets hope it works...

Pwn4g3 · Post by **Pwn4g3** » Wed Apr 14, 2004 5:42 pm

dude, you misunderstood, open the b40 map in sparkedit and select a letter and find it...it shows textured meshes dude....remember?

Pwn4g3 · Post by **Pwn4g3** » Wed Apr 14, 2004 5:52 pm

{G}H0g-Jump4h wrote:
Pwn4g3 wrote:Have fun with the seekfailed error, it seems for now we can't do any BSP thats named b or after, only the a's seem to work. And I dunno if a30 A even works, some prob with outdoor BSPs...
why did you say that? i am in the process of converting right now. (2-3 minutes left... i just have to do the final build). o well.... i did EXACTLY what the thing said. word for word. lets hope it works...

Because its been said over at gearbox forums, and they are a pretty reliable source as they are mostly pros...

VoiDeD · Post by **VoiDeD** » Wed Apr 14, 2004 5:53 pm

Pwn4g3 wrote:dude, you misunderstood, open the b40 map in sparkedit and select a letter and find it...it shows textured meshes dude....remember?

oh yeah... i remember that bsp menu thing now... i neva opened a sp map in s-e b4

and its D40_F and i heard sum1 say that anything over B wont work... is tis true or whut?

{G}H0g-Jump4h · Post by **{G}H0g-Jump4h** » Wed Apr 14, 2004 6:05 pm

w00t! i did it! i converted! just didnt get the right part of the lvl. ill try _b next time. but... I CANT FIND ANYTHING!!! its all terrain! where are the spawns? where are the weapons? if this helps: i replaced over BattleCreek. i g2g for tonight.

Pwn4g3 · Post by **Pwn4g3** » Wed Apr 14, 2004 6:12 pm

Well, its usually under the level in the original MP map shaped cluster, a way to find it is look at the original camera location values, and then head towards that location....

Pwn4g3 · Post by **Pwn4g3** » Wed Apr 14, 2004 6:13 pm

{G}H0g-Jump4h wrote:w00t! i did it! i converted! just didnt get the right part of the lvl. ill try _b next time. but... I CANT FIND ANYTHING!!! its all terrain! where are the spawns? where are the weapons? if this helps: i replaced over BattleCreek. i g2g for tonight.

lol once you've moved the spawn points, just prepare youself just incase you get hugged by Mr. Exception :D

Duffman · Post by **Duffman** » Wed Apr 14, 2004 6:19 pm

Pwn4g3 wrote:
Duffmn04 wrote:
Kamatzu wrote:then name test tes...problem solved. Now it points to the tes you just renamed
it won't let me...i hate my computer
It won't let you rename if you have items open in programs that are within that folder dude, cos they are in use, changing the folder name changes the location, therefore it won't let you, till you release the items from memory.

buh ??? plz explain how i would change this

p.s. where do i find the top dependency for an item?

Pwn4g3 · Post by **Pwn4g3** » Wed Apr 14, 2004 6:27 pm

Well, if you have something from the tes folder open in HMT, its being used, so u can't rename a folder said file is in till you close the program. Thats what I meant...

Top dependency? Well, I'm not super at modding, but if you recursively extract something, it might be a file referenced near the top of the meta.xml file...just a guess...

Pwn4g3 · Post by **Pwn4g3** » Thu Apr 15, 2004 2:38 am

Any progress {G}H0g-Jump4h?

Pwn4g3 · Post by **Pwn4g3** » Thu Apr 15, 2004 5:15 am

I think the reason why anything after mapname_A doesn't work is because the A file contains stuff needed in the other bsp fragments, the reason I say this, is because when I open up saw d40_a in SparkEdit, have you ever noticed that there is a load of scenery etc from later BSP sub-meshes, in the A mesh, I for example can see all the way up to the lift, there just no actual bsp u can put yourself on....

You get me? Have a look yourself...I think I'm right, if not could someone explain it?

I think this could be the source of that whole SparkEdit error :D

latot · Post by **latot** » Thu Apr 15, 2004 7:58 am

ANYONE WHO IS TRYING A30_A!!!!! LOOK HERE:

It doesn't work, Mr. Exception takes a shine to that level...

Pwn4g3 · Post by **Pwn4g3** » Thu Apr 15, 2004 8:05 am

Yes, thanks for sharing :D

mtxboxfreak · Post by **mtxboxfreak** » Thu Apr 15, 2004 8:09 am

pwn4g3, ur idea seems reasonable to me. maybe someone could look into this? If only mono hadnt left :\

Pwn4g3 · Post by **Pwn4g3** » Thu Apr 15, 2004 8:15 am

maybe, just maybe, if you open the map in sparkedit, delete all the un-needed stuff, and then do the tut from there, it would work without the SE error? Just a thought...

Cos after you do the build, that stuff isnt there, so it would make sense if the map file is referencing them, and they arent present, hence unnamed file seek failed...maybe?

mtxboxfreak · Post by **mtxboxfreak** » Thu Apr 15, 2004 8:33 am

try it!

Pwn4g3 · Post by **Pwn4g3** » Thu Apr 15, 2004 8:35 am

I'm hard at work on my d40_a, trying to get platforms, damn things are always for BG, I need build ready scenery files lol. Any pointers on what maps have decent sized panels I could export and use?

I am gonna build a huge structure for the other side of the map :D

mtxboxfreak · Post by **mtxboxfreak** » Thu Apr 15, 2004 8:50 am

well, the elevator from 343 GS has been used in some mods as a good platform. Even mono used it in AotCR

Pwn4g3 · Post by **Pwn4g3** » Thu Apr 15, 2004 8:51 am

The only snag I can think of is that SP devices and such can't be deleted...so I guess thats pointless, unless moving them inside the BSP can solve that? But I believe the triggers get deleted...who knows, maybe someone can try this...

VoiDeD · Post by **VoiDeD** » Thu Apr 15, 2004 10:36 am

i figured out a way to move stuff even if u get a spark error.

you open up spark edit and load the map ur tryin to convert, then goto the bsp that ur using and grab sumthing, anything and move it to the spot where u want a spawn point for example to be, then u get object info and record the location. now close the map, and open the map ur using as ur base, then u have to use the goto location or w.e its called, and type in the coordinates, then move the spawn point to teh flashing green light, then save, and now use that map as a base when u convert teh sp map.