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Halo. A complete copy?

Posted: Tue May 24, 2005 10:54 am
by Gavel
Well, I read this book from the 70's called ringworld. It is about a 200 year old man, perposterously far in the future. He meets some aliens and is sent on a trip to explore the RingWorld. When they arrive at it, they are shot down and marooned on the ringworld.

Noticabley there is a character (a pierson's pupeteer, which is a alien race, an inscrutably cowardly yet avanced race) named Chiron (the map Chiron TL 34 ring a bell)in the book. He sends the pupeteer Nessus, the 200 year old man named Luois Wu, a Kzinti (a cat-like species, that is extremely fearsome) and a 20 year old human girl named teela on the mission to explore the ring.

The ring circles an entire star, and is huge. While on the pupeteer planet (where they meet Chiron) they follow a flying blue bulb to the place to meet Chiron (sound familiar?).

Once on the ring, the four travel about on flycycles and arrive after some time at the Ring world's Map room. Again, sound familiar? The map room includes a holographic map with the entire ring mapped out in one huge holograph.

They come upon a fallen city (the cities of this world used to fly, they used magnetism to counteract the ring's metal floor. There they meet a tribal leader who speaks of a Covenant with god. Covenant... hmm...

The ship they use also appears to have an AI, only one which does not speak, but can translate any language that it hears.

The ring was built by the Engineers (I wonder if Forerunner means Engineer?) so they could use it for living room. One day the ruler was revolted upon by the people, and shut himself up in the map room. Which was still floating when the traveler's got there.

The cities are powered by solar power, which comes from the giant metal plates in orbit between the ring and the sun, to provide solar power, and shade so that there may be night.

Read the book, and tell me what you think. Halo in my opinion, is almost an exact copy of the book.

EDIT: Oh yeah, and it turns out the Engineers were us Humans, and that the Humans that now live are the direct descendants of them after their civilzation fell. They could not get above cave man level of civilization, because there was no metal to mine out of the ring, and all machinery had rusted away.

So they were stuck at caveman level, and have been ever since! Maybe this is a clue to Halo's story, and maybe that the forerunner's ARE human.

Cortana calculated in Halo 1 on the level AOTCR, that the blast of the Halo's had a maximum effective radius of 20,000 light years. That means it would take at least 20,000 years for the destructive blast to reach Earth, or the endge of it's blast radius.

The ringworld's structure is comprised of a material thick stong enough to withstand 40% of nuetrino's. It would take a little over 1 light year of solid lead to block that kind of radiation. So maybe the Halo's are the Ark, and can stop the radioactive blast. This is exact physics in the real world to, in real life it really would take 1 light year of lead to stop 40 % of nuetrino's.

Did I mention that even if you had that much lead, half of the nuetrino's will still get through! The Ringworld's material could stop ALL of it. The surface was only 40 feet thick of dirt an rock, then there is the almost indestructable ring floor. It is very smoothe and heat resistant.

The Ark might also be a ship capable of moving faster than the blast, allowing anyone on it to escape the blast! The human race could build millions of them based off the Ark's engines and everyone could escape! The blast would take a loooong time to reach Earth anyhow!

Posted: Tue May 24, 2005 11:10 am
by Danke
Someone want to move this to halo discussion?

Posted: Tue May 24, 2005 11:11 am
by Gavel
I thought it belonged here, seeing as it's about the book mostly, and not Halo.

Posted: Tue May 24, 2005 11:21 am
by 522Viper
"there are things about halo, even we dont understand."

Posted: Tue May 24, 2005 11:22 am
by I Trunks I
weird but iteresting..

Posted: Tue May 24, 2005 1:11 pm
by Robin
Coinscidence IMO. And for the light-years isn't 20,000 years. A light-year is approximately 9.5 trillion kilometers and light travels at this speed in 1 year (this is how "light-year" was named). Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe you find the distance the ring was from the Earth and continue the math from there.

Posted: Tue May 24, 2005 2:08 pm
by Waverunner
Dan!! wrote:Someone want to move this to halo discussion?
Moved to halo discussion.

Posted: Tue May 24, 2005 4:37 pm
by Gavel
but I believe you find the distance the ring was from the Earth and continue the math from there
Well DUH. I'm not stupid! I just imagined it being at the edge as an example of scale.

I forgot to put this in, but in the book a bunch o stars exploded a long time ago, and the light is flying near known space, and right behind that is radiation powerful enough to kill off everything once it reaches known space. The ring is the only thing that can stop the radiation. So, as the Pupeteer migration (they moved their entire planets to near lightspeed to escape the blast!) flies toward the cloud of magellan, the entire human race and Kzinit remain back at known space. In two thousand year the radiation would reach known space, and the entire system would have to be evacuated.

Only those on the ring would survive, the radiation wave would pass by, and the races will eventually die off by the radiation as they run out of room in the universe to run to. The people on the ring will survive, but will be the only surviving races in the entire universe. And stuck at caveman techonology to.

Posted: Sun May 29, 2005 4:47 pm
by FAdu09
actually Halo did take inspiration from that book, but its not a complete copy i dont think

Posted: Sat Sep 10, 2005 11:52 pm
by Caboose (tank bridge)
how can u run out of room in the universe????????

Posted: Sun Sep 11, 2005 12:05 am
by a_marine
In case you didn't read the rules something over a week (I think :? ) is a bump. To many bumps and you get a temp ban.