YEP! guys you are right ! HMT is way better, BUT when im setting there on game night with a lot of friends ( we get 4 to 5 Xboxes and tv's hooked up,on a lan) it is quick and easy to use. Flying MC is not what we use it for,more like enough flyers for everybody!!! (change things in a second and then load and play) I also find that many people are not as good with the computer as we, or you guys are,it does seem simple to you, and Cartographer is for the average gamer that knows nothing about computers, It should work on almost any old computer with a net card too. I am 42 and when I was your age I had a TRS 80 and a Commadore 128

,not quite that old. I see people ask the same question all the time, how do I use HMT, or how to get flyers in MP maps, this is for the newbies or unskilled ,or just a lot of casual gamers. Last I don't think this needs the .NET framework. Spartan III thanks for the positive comments. HALO game night RULES!