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hax my first mod
Posted: Wed Aug 16, 2006 12:04 pm
by smacktalker
hello
i'm quite new to modding. and recently i've done some interesting findings under the unknown values of the SCNR tag. its nothin big, but its actually quite handy when doing a BSP conversion.
this bsp might look formiliar, but i'm redoing it since pyroman didnt do well ...
so ya expect a new map with some nice gameplay in a bit. /// hehe i'm goaling for mimesis.
so far i have sit back, relax and watched the party goin, but now im going active, and im gonna make a well nice mod out of this.
Re: hax my first mod
Posted: Wed Aug 16, 2006 12:11 pm
by Vicarious
Well , this is a nice first mod but umm ....
smacktalker wrote:this bsp might look formiliar, but i'm redoing it since pyroman didnt do well ...
I think pyroman could make a mod better than you. But , thats just my opinion.
Posted: Wed Aug 16, 2006 12:13 pm
by Hawaiian Modder
Nice, Guessing you found the obstacle pallate and placement?
Thats what I found just take those from the sp map and add them to the mp map, make sure you have all the needed obstacles and then just do it again with the scenery pallate and other stuff that lies around.
Nice job.
Posted: Wed Aug 16, 2006 12:13 pm
by GametagAeonFlux
Looks cool, that's a fun part of the campaign.
Posted: Wed Aug 16, 2006 12:21 pm
by smacktalker
Hawaiian Modder wrote:Thats what I found just take those from the sp map and add them to the mp map, make sure you have all the needed obstacles and then just do it again with the scenery pallate and other stuff that lies around.
well actually i've tried that... all scen, bloc, and mach showed up in the BSP viewer after copying over the palette and the placement reflexives from single player, but didnt spawn when i played the map.
but the SCEN, BLOC and MACH placement chunks contained info from which point in the singleplayer map they would load... because if all the chunks would load instantly, the map would most likely overload (it'd load over 1000 placement chunks in one time)
so ya i've found these values, which in my case needed to be found, to let the scen and stuff spawn..
Vicarious, you have your opinion, but if i'm done with this i'd like you to compare pyroman his conversion, and what i've made from this map. then we speak again. for now your opinion seems somewhat unargumented since ive never released anything before where gameplay comes around the corner to peak how well balanced it is.
Posted: Wed Aug 16, 2006 12:27 pm
by Monkey Terd
It has a weird lightmap, almost looks like there isn't one in some spots. = /
Can't wait for a release though, it looks awesome.
=P
Posted: Wed Aug 16, 2006 12:27 pm
by T1xAnton
psst guess what ^^... Im doing the same one! Looks good though.
Posted: Wed Aug 16, 2006 12:44 pm
by smacktalker
T1xAnton wrote:psst guess what ^^... Im doing the same one! Looks good though.
hehe i'm very interested in how you bring this off.. we could sorta make it competition wise?
here's what i did so far, i restored all the scenery, obstacles, machines. and ive added 4 doors to multiple places, and 2 midship gravlifts to bring you upwards. but you'll see.
Posted: Wed Aug 16, 2006 1:06 pm
by Pyroman
Yea well this is being achieved so easily now because of Entity.
I did mine by straight hex yo.
Posted: Wed Aug 16, 2006 1:06 pm
by StalkingGrunt911
Good job on your first mod/bsp conversion I will be waiting on the release.
Posted: Wed Aug 16, 2006 2:12 pm
by x088x
pyroman31 wrote:Yea well this is being achieved so easily now because of Entity.
I did mine by straight hex yo.
Posted: Wed Aug 16, 2006 2:17 pm
by T1xAnton
Hey I dont want to compete i have to much on my plate
But if you want we can team up on it. Its ok if you dont want to but just an idea. ^^...
Posted: Wed Aug 16, 2006 11:22 pm
by smacktalker
pyroman31 wrote:Yea well this is being achieved so easily now because of Entity.
converting a bsp yes. making gameplay entity can't do for you. thats why you failed.
Posted: Wed Aug 16, 2006 11:39 pm
by ScottyGEE
Goddamn don't be freakin too hard on him for trying to make a mod thats fun... Some of us may have liked it but you made it a general statement suggesting that everyone thought it failed.
If you "fail" don't expect us to be nice about it.
Posted: Wed Aug 16, 2006 11:52 pm
by Pyroman
smacktalker wrote:pyroman31 wrote:Yea well this is being achieved so easily now because of Entity.
converting a bsp yes. making gameplay entity can't do for you. thats why you failed.
And who the fuck are you to say I failed at making good gameplay?
I had to move every coordinate by hand. It sucked. But hey, I thought it would be fun to some people.
Posted: Thu Aug 17, 2006 12:22 am
by Tural
Enough of this argument..
Posted: Thu Aug 17, 2006 7:50 am
by DoorM4n
I'm with pyroman. You have no right at all to say his mod "fail"
Learn some manners.
Looks cool, I remember T1Axnton said something about you doing one TFD. Hope it comes good.
Posted: Thu Aug 17, 2006 8:04 am
by -DeToX-
DoorM4n wrote:I'm with pyroman. You have no right at all to say his mod "fail"
Learn some manners.
Exactly, stop being harsh.
Pyroman did better than you could do. Id like to see you do this all in hex, and make the gametypes by co-ordinates. Your just one that brags cause you cant use Entity and do a better job that someone using hex..
ANYONE can make good Gameplay with Entity. The biggest of n00bs can.
Stop trying to put other people down and make yourself look better.
Those pictures are bad quality, And from the pictures, It does look like it has no lightmap in some spots. Hope you can spice it up... But don't be an ass.
Back on track: I actually hope you get it on Mimesis though, cause this BSP would be fun. But T1xAnton's so far looks better
Posted: Thu Aug 17, 2006 8:16 am
by RA1N THE ELITE
smacktalker wrote:pyroman31 wrote:Yea well this is being achieved so easily now because of Entity.
converting a bsp yes. making gameplay entity can't do for you. thats why you failed.
whoa dude now that's ******. u should watch ur manners. Pyroman is a great modder and every bsp conversion now is achieved more easier because of entity. Hell, if it wasn't for apps i wouldn't be able to mod.
Posted: Thu Aug 17, 2006 8:34 am
by smacktalker
whatsup with all the comotion coz ive said his mod failed. so what. i'm entitled to speak whatever i feel about a mod. thus i've remade this.
and it pawns. so play, compare and huss. i'm not in anyway trying to compare to pyroman his skills simply coz i'm only a noob. haha but i'm a fast learner.
btw noobs can't make gameplay, they usually mess it up.
t1x anton his mod i want to see. we'll see what headshottie will say.
btw can't you nutters read what the luitenant just said? i'm reporting you for continuing this argument. ive done nothin wrong. all i said pyroman failed so whaaaaat.. oh ya detox you got a great imagination and you speculate awfully good. but you shouldnt. doesnt make you look good at all.
and detox how can pics taken by the screencaptrainer be BAD quality... O_o' they are only a bit brightened up... nice way to diss the best screencap trainer.