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Nice thread Trep.

I have two *probably common* errors in my renders.
(Bad image quality because edited in MS Paint)



The visor has a small line going down it, probably from something I did to it. I noticed it was rough so i just welded a few vertecies.

Also, I have a weird line going through the left side of the helmet, any ideas?

The visor, all you need to do is Weld all the vertices in the line with a really small threshold. I don't know about that helmet thing though.

add a smooth modifier to the entire mesh, with an amount of 180 and autosmooth turned on. It should fix the problem, Jordan.

i tried both but niether seemed to work

When I import the Chief, it has that helmet line next to the mouth also, did you try welding it?

i've welded most of the odd-looking corners but it doesnt let me weld those points, says no points within threshold. tried playing with the threshold too, nothing

Did you, by chance, at one point, select all the vertices, and set the threshold low, and weld them all at once?

.....no.....
that doesnt sound too smart

Do you have any type of bump map on the model? Also post a picture of your model's UV's unwrapped. I am thinking this has to do with the UV's and positioning.

Edit: for the visor, go into the Unwrap UVW and just select all of the faces and move the visor faces up a little bit.

This is going to sound very noobish, but how do I make a spartan render like the ones in the rener thread? Like, would I just import a spartan model and texture from a map and play with it in 3ds max, or is there more to it?

Unlocked, did you just say he has geometry problems because of a UVW map?

No Tural. What I said was that his UV mapping is or might be off. If you try to weld verts at that point where the line is on the helmet there are none to weld. When you add a Unwrap UVW modifier to the model you will notice that there is a green line (where the UV splits) right at that point. This deformation could be caused by a wrong positioning of his UV's on the helmet or his bump map is too strong and it is caving in that specific area.

kornkidcrazy wrote:This is going to sound very noobish, but how do I make a spartan render like the ones in the rener thread? Like, would I just import a spartan model and texture from a map and play with it in 3ds max, or is there more to it?

much more. it's more than just a diffuse and a model


and its the UV positioning.. there is a line going right through where the error is on the helmet. and i dont quite understand what you want me to do about the visor

is there a tutorial on how to render stuff in 3ds max like that?

Yes, go to the User Forums.

Jordan wrote:and its the UV positioning.. there is a line going right through where the error is on the helmet. and i dont quite understand what you want me to do about the visor

The red arrow indicates that you should move all of those faces up a tad to remove the line down the middle of the visor.

The blue circle is where you have the line in the helmet, play around with the faces to get rid of that line.

thanks titan, i did what you said and the visor looks tons better now!
i'm still having troubles with the helmet though, i noticed that i have those errors all over the edges of my uvw maps :-/
i sent my .max file to tural and it looked fine on his, but when he sent it back it was still messed up. not sure what else i can do.
at least heres my new fixed visor

Send the max file to me and I'll take a look at it. I'll send my contact info via P.M.

EDIT: In my opinion, this topic should be stickied. This topic will help out many people in 3ds max

For the visor i dont use the "weld" i juste select teh vertew on teh middle and i "collapse" and i it works fine. You cnat see it but there's a seconde vertex point behind.

How do you manke this material look so detailed?

For me it looks pixelized, i didn't understand how you do to extract the alpha texture.