models WIP: updated Dec, 02 3:40 am.

[a romantic grunt]

ok im trying to make a xm8... ill finish the smoothing and everything tommorow.

o yeah got to give out thanks to the people... well person who helped me ALOT... infedelchimp thnks man u rock... so does ure hair lol.

[Veegie[Temp]]

1)Here's the gameplan, make a topic called "My work Update XX-XX-XX"
Bump it whenever you have something worthwhile to show off

2) have a mod deletet the other 9 topics you created in the past 2 days.

[[SW]Phanom777]

The stock where you hold the gun is WAY too small. You need really small leprechaun hands to actually hold it well. Also what is the red tube for? It wouldn't make sense if it was a sight. A laser would make sense (which it undoubtedly is). Also put more angles of the weapon. AND I think you should make the sight longer on the viewers side because when you try and snipe you usually put your eye closer to the sight otherwise it gets awkward. Just some ideas for improvement. Otherwise its very nice...wait... is the grip NEXT TO THE AMMO? well... thats.. ermmm... bad design. Im sure a man with an armored hand wont feel the heat but a normal man will get burned if he puts his hands too close to the clip.

[a romantic grunt]

well we are talking about the mc...and ill take ure idea veegie.

[Veegie[Temp]]

You need really small leprechaun hands to actually hold it well.

well we are talking about the mc.

uh....

[a romantic grunt]

oo dude... old fashion bolt action guns... remember those... no handle... yeahh thats the aspect.

[SnaFuBAR]

well it sure doesn't look like that. do you not realize that weapons have MANY variations in thickness at any given spot?

i can't tell you enough times. GET SOME REFERENCES! without them, you will continue to make box guns. please get references before attempting ANY more modeling. it's just not a good idea to model without them.

i told you to look at katarn's stickied topic "3ds Max: Gun Modeling for Dummies". if you would have, you would have seen this:

Modeling Tuts (ugly ones for extreme beginners):
http://www.baconbomb.com/modworks/tut_g ... eling.html
http://www.fh-worms.de/~inf126/tutorial ... index.html

seriously look at those. you will see that they use many references.

[Infidelchimp]

but a normal man will get burned if he puts his hands too close to the clip.

nonsense.

the explosion is contained within the barrel- little heat is transferreed to the magazine. if that were the case, then you would burn your hand on the pistol grip as heat would be transferred to it, and indeed - the rest of the weapon

[Xero]

Looks like a toy gun.

[CtrlAltDestroy]

Don't just select everything and autosmooth... makes it look bad.

Overlapping Edges = Bad.

[Krush]

I usually model my weapons off my own concepts, as it seems you are doing. But explain to me the logic of having the clip stationed in the grip of the gun. Generally speaking, you'd want your hand on the grip. Just making a suggestion, you should change that.

[Caboose{SE}]

oo dude... old fashion bolt action guns... remember those... no handle... yeahh thats the aspect.

they had a handle, the stock was just in a lower postition the one you made kinda has no possible to way to grasp the gun

[[SW]Phanom777]

nonsense.

the explosion is contained within the barrel- little heat is transferreed to the magazine. if that were the case, then you would burn your hand on the pistol grip as heat would be transferred to it, and indeed - the rest of the weapon

I am not sure about automatic weapons, as I have never fired one, so ill give you the benefit of the doubt. RIFLES and shotguns, on the other hand get VERY hot where the combustion occurs. If you touch the top of just a .22 rifle it gets a tadbit uncomfortable. And the higher the spray rate and the gunpowder levels the hotter it gets. Now; about pistols. The reason the grip doesnt get hard is because there is protection on it. Furthermore if you ever touched a revolver's "rotor" thingy you would probably notice that that also gets a bit warm. A Romantic Grunts clip doesnt look like it takes AANY precaution against heating. He could just make a slot that rises about an inch from the grip that houses the clip but... well... He DID say that its master chief... and yet all the weapons used by MC were used by the marines... hopefully they have military issue oven mitts.



Edit: And I agree withthe guy who posted above me. The rifles used to have stocks that you would grip almost horizontally. But they were long stocks if that was the case. Even most shotguns have a pinky stopper about 4 or 5 inces away from the trigger to act as something that lets people feel some kind of support.

[Infidelchimp]

I am not sure about automatic weapons, as I have never fired one, so ill give you the benefit of the doubt. RIFLES and shotguns, on the other hand get VERY hot where the combustion occurs. .

yea, they get hot where the combustion OCCURS - not on the magazine, dont you think Weapon manufacturers would take this into consideration when designing a weapon? i.e. not placing it where you could easily burn your forearm on it - you clearly have no concept of the physics and inner workings of a weapon, dont argue with me - youll get 'burned'.


also - HK weapons such as the UMP and the G36, they are made of a type of plastic - dont you think that would melt if the heat wasnt contained within the breech?

[a romantic grunt]

phantom... wow... dude cmon ok... say when ure done unloading on the suns a bitches enemies rightt.... ok well alot of this combustion accured yet u still touch the clip to take it off right... rightt... ok then so u think if u went to take off the clip u'd burn ureself... i dont think gun manufactures and that stupid... so think... just think... ok just if ure stupid (not saying u are) im saying u fire a gun when teh clip is empty u touch it to take it off and its not hot... ok.

[bradenislegend]

burn... (pun intended)

[a romantic grunt]

burn... (pun intended)

need some ice?? lol.

[SnaFuBAR]

ok your xm8 is looking better than your WTF rifle. you're getting better. keep working at it, as you're definatley improving.

[Xeph0n]

Looks like you're improving there grunt. Try chamfering some of those edges to give it a bit more depth. Getting taught by the great chimp eh? good stuff

[benman08]

Make all the textures grey then render it. But, yea, it does seem you are getting better. GJ