Section Rules - Halo 3 Modding Q&A

xbox · Post by **xbox** » Mon Jun 09, 2008 4:29 pm

which categories (ie: vehi, mode, scen, etc) can be used in forge mods?

-DeToX- · Post by **-DeToX-** » Mon Jun 09, 2008 5:18 pm

xbox wrote:which categories (ie: vehi, mode, scen, etc) can be used in forge mods?

Bipd, Bloc, Eqip, Garb, Mach, Proj, Scen, Vehi, Weap.

I don't think I missed anything.

bballaplaya4life · Post by **bballaplaya4life** » Tue Jun 10, 2008 12:39 pm

-DeToX- wrote:
xbox wrote:which categories (ie: vehi, mode, scen, etc) can be used in forge mods?
Bipd, Bloc, Eqip, Garb, Mach, Proj, Scen, Vehi, Weap.

I don't think I missed anything.

I don't think the "Garb" tag exists.

Quick question: Are projectile swaps possible in usermap modding? If so, would this mean if someone else played the map, would the projectile swap still be in effect?

Eaton · Post by **Eaton** » Tue Jun 10, 2008 12:42 pm

bballaplaya4life wrote:
-DeToX- wrote:
xbox wrote:which categories (ie: vehi, mode, scen, etc) can be used in forge mods?
Bipd, Bloc, Eqip, Garb, Mach, Proj, Scen, Vehi, Weap.

I don't think I missed anything.
I don't think the "Garb" tag exists.

Heh, you're right.

LuxuriousMeat · Post by **LuxuriousMeat** » Tue Jun 10, 2008 1:17 pm

bballaplaya4life wrote:Quick question: Are projectile swaps possible in usermap modding? If so, would this mean if someone else played the map, would the projectile swap still be in effect?

No, projectile swaps are not possible in in usermaps.

-DeToX- · Post by **-DeToX-** » Tue Jun 10, 2008 2:47 pm

Right... Garb was in Halo 2... I was just pulling them off the top of my head.

Anyways that should cover it.

And Usermaps are related to SPAWNS.

YagerX · Post by **YagerX** » Tue Jun 10, 2008 10:47 pm

-DeToX- wrote:
xbox wrote:which categories (ie: vehi, mode, scen, etc) can be used in forge mods?
Bipd, Bloc, Eqip, Garb, Mach, Proj, Scen, Vehi, Weap.

I don't think I missed anything.

Proj's eh? Do they still do damage when you touch them? thing.

shade45 · Post by **shade45** » Tue Jun 10, 2008 10:56 pm

YagerX wrote:
-DeToX- wrote:
xbox wrote:which categories (ie: vehi, mode, scen, etc) can be used in forge mods?
Bipd, Bloc, Eqip, Garb, Mach, Proj, Scen, Vehi, Weap.

I don't think I missed anything.
Proj's eh? Do they still do damage when you touch them? thing.

Yeah you can still take damage from them.

Tural · Post by **Tural** » Tue Jun 10, 2008 11:08 pm

Do they launch themselves? I think I recall a High Ground mod with Wraith shots being projected from the missile launcher thing in the back of the base. What made them go?

shade45 · Post by **shade45** » Wed Jun 11, 2008 12:10 am

Yes they launch themselves all I had to do was spawn them. I'm guessing they just spawn with the default speed defined in the proj tag.

Anthony · Post by **Anthony** » Wed Jun 11, 2008 2:10 pm

shade45 wrote:I'm guessing they just spawn with the default speed defined in the proj tag.

Great guess!!!

j/k lol

YagerX · Post by **YagerX** » Wed Jun 11, 2008 9:00 pm

hehe laser mazes anyone?

SPARTAN-OMEGA · Post by **SPARTAN-OMEGA** » Wed Jun 11, 2008 9:42 pm

Wouldnt work, they shoot once then theyre gone

shade45 · Post by **shade45** » Wed Jun 11, 2008 10:16 pm

Yea respawn time doesn't seem to work with projectiles.. I couldn't get it to.

YagerX · Post by **YagerX** » Thu Jun 12, 2008 1:30 am

Ah well btw here's what some coughretardscough are saying on HIH.
Are they telling the truth about the mods?

SpartanG1 wrote:Ok I can honor such a request but first I'd like to know why, exactly, you claim it to be impossible to spawn them by swaping tag information.

Actually thinking about doing this for you gave me some interesting insight. Your request is a little misguided and obviously not properly thought out. I could do many things that would leave you to believe I had a map with Troop Warthogs in it even if I did not. I could photoshop the Warthogs in and then upload the screen shot. I could take multiple screen shots of the same Troop Warthog after I glitched it into the map and splice them together, I could simply glitch the Troop Warthog into the map and wait for you to accuse me of having done just that. I could (assuming you are right about the cage which I happen to know you are not) simple spawn a Warthog with a placeholder and place the cage on top of it and take screen shots, or any number of other things to make you believe me. This led me to an interesting conclusion. Why bother in the first place. If you would be willing to believe any of that you should be just as willing to believe it because I say it, and if not then you would just find a reason not to believe me even if everything was legit. I would have to upload to my file share a map which came with a Troop Warthog inside it and trust that you would not report me to Bungie and have me banned, hope Bungie doesn’t just find it and ban me anyway, risk getting banned from the website which I got this unreleased mod from, and risk the anger of those who made the mod and my ability to get mods before they are released and my access to resign any of the things I create. None of which I am not willing to do.

This can be done the same way the Covenant Sniper Towers, Missile Pod Turrets, and any number of other things that are multiple pieces are spawned, and the same way these things are spawned in campaign. If you notice the Covenant Sniper Towers show a link to their halves but not any other object. You can place other objects in the gravity lift that holds the sniper tower in place and it will not be effected however if you place the top of the tower on its base it will come together, just like when you forge a Missile Pod turret the pieces will come apart but when you use them they snap together again. The same rules apply to the Troop Warthog if you spawn its cage independently it will seem just an object but if you spawn the cage on the warthog it will stay as if it were part of the warthog itself. This same coding is used to for Gaussian and minigun turrets in the actual multiplayer game. This cuts down on Bungie having to make three different versions of the same vehicle with full collision and everything else the vehicles need and thus cuts down on the unnecessary redundancy. So when you take a logical approach to the idea of spawning a troop hog that would be useable though not permanent it is actually possible despite what you would be inclined to believe based on your obviously limited knowledge of the games mechanics.

xbox · Post by **xbox** » Thu Jun 12, 2008 5:57 am

Although he is retarded and has poor writing capabilities, from what I can actually read he is telling the truth; but he is not talking about modding at all.

Tural · Post by **Tural** » Thu Jun 12, 2008 11:24 am

Please don't post stupid crap from other sites here. He's a babbling idiot trying to be cool. Let it stay on the other site.

SPARTAN-OMEGA · Post by **SPARTAN-OMEGA** » Thu Jun 12, 2008 12:24 pm

Now that the ability to mod CON files "is more out there" will you guys release the app for video editing? And maybe a tut on how to use it too?

Tural · Post by **Tural** » Thu Jun 12, 2008 12:26 pm

Vanity is very straight-forward. The tutorial would be identical to Sandbox. Extract film, edit, inject, resign/rehash/whatever.

unknownv2 · Post by **unknownv2** » Thu Jun 12, 2008 12:35 pm

SPARTAN-OMEGA wrote:Now that the ability to mod CON files "is more out there" will you guys release the app for video editing? And maybe a tut on how to use it too?

As far as I know, there are no "guys" to release the app, only Veegie, which I seriously doubt he will.