[WIP|Map] Plethora

Griff · Post by **Griff** » Tue Jun 22, 2004 12:04 pm

Hey, started my first map for halo over at Halo Junkies .. It's been a breeze to model except I'm now trying to find the reason over why I get degenerate triangles errors in sapien. I've tried re-apply the uvs an re modeling the polygones which show up in the debug.wrl ..

anyways here's a few images.. gimme comments and criticism

Cheers

Burnination · Post by **Burnination** » Tue Jun 22, 2004 12:23 pm

im liking those bases... very nice...
very nice landscape and textures also...
ill be dlin this one when it comes out

jimmsta · Post by **jimmsta** » Tue Jun 22, 2004 3:16 pm

Very nice work! I don't know how to help you ;(

Just wondering -- how many polygons do those bases take up? They seem very smooth... you might have too many, maybe that could be the problem...

Judge_Bond · Post by **Judge_Bond** » Tue Jun 22, 2004 3:35 pm

wow nice map......dont know how to fix the problem, but the mao is awesome....it will probly be a big hit like bloodgulch is, cuz it looks like it good job

akmassassin · Post by **akmassassin** » Tue Jun 22, 2004 4:53 pm

hey this map is incredible!!!! SIK 10\10

Y youre getting lot of degenerate triangles: i made a map incredibly detailed as yours but i had to start over: too much errors. cauz u consentrated on the map's originality, so u get a million errors. That'S life. but try to correct your errors, i just almost done my new map and it takes about a day complete to correct your errors.

PS: import the .WRL file from your halo ce folder, thats the file were tool shows u the erors on your map. when u have an open edge or a degenerate triangle just delete the edge or the triangle, then create new triangles, thats the best way to do.

GOOD LUCK

gameman86 · Post by **gameman86** » Tue Jun 22, 2004 5:56 pm

go pm doublefire over at the gearbox forums, hell help you out

blink 182 · Post by **blink 182** » Tue Jun 22, 2004 7:49 pm

I think one way to get rid of some errors is to raise the faces on the second row in. It looks like you raised the faces that were connected to the sides of the box and ended up twisting them.

maca_§ · Post by **maca_§** » Tue Jun 22, 2004 11:55 pm

i give my shibby of approval.
heh great map

Nsomnia1337 · Post by **Nsomnia1337** » Wed Jun 23, 2004 5:39 am

whoa

it scares me a bit, like a graveyard or somethin

McFarlane · Post by **McFarlane** » Wed Jun 23, 2004 6:20 am

Can anybody tell me how to UVW map?

Griff · Post by **Griff** » Wed Jun 23, 2004 10:15 am

thanks for all the comments guys

@[XBOX]BigAFair: I could tell you how to uv map in lightwave but not max lol

@Nsomnia1337: Least it has an effect then

@blink 182: Yeah I did raise the first row and not the second.. but the faces arent twisted, well.. they aren't the ones giving me problems..

@AkmAssassin: I know which faces are giving me the errors.. it's only 4

I've tried remodeling them.. re-uvmaping them.. etc.. kinda stumped..

@jimmsta: Its just the light.. the out side of the bases are 12 sided..

I'll get a pic up of the 4 faces that give me errors.. all of them seem to have one thing in common as they all connect the middle bases to the landscape..

edit:. Ok here's a image of my prob... the face with the red dot is giving me hell.. well it's 1 of the 4. Another of the 4 is situated the other side of the building.. and the other 2 are in the same position on the opposite side of the map.. also by my building..

I've checked for loose vertice.. welded and unwelded the bases to the level and back.. any suggestions?[/img]

kasper4christ · Post by **kasper4christ** » Thu Jun 24, 2004 11:26 am

i will join the crowd in congradulating you on this awesome map.. it looks GREAT, like you actually put some time into it.. thats so cool, and also like the crowd.. i don't have any other help than that to give..

rossmum · Post by **rossmum** » Fri Jun 25, 2004 12:14 am

Awesome! That will have to be non-vehicles though. It looks small-ish.

And it looks kinda like a Covenant installation. Hmm....Does it have a story to go with it?

clanX-bomb · Post by **clanX-bomb** » Fri Jun 25, 2004 12:15 am

damn thas awsome

ThabounceR · Post by **ThabounceR** » Fri Jun 25, 2004 6:21 am

i've also had alot of problems with that, it happens in sapien, so i went back in max and reskinned everything, and did sum thins with the shaders and bitmaps and it worked, but that was just a small thing this is way bigger, but maybe it is of any help to you

good luck with it

Burnination · Post by **Burnination** » Fri Jun 25, 2004 7:45 am

im havin the same prob...but mine is with mostly all the faces around my base...that i made

Griff · Post by **Griff** » Fri Jun 25, 2004 10:59 am

thanks all...

It took me 2 days to do the modeling and another 2 to do the texturing...

Hopefully fix my problem asap..

I've tried re-skinning.. and I wouldnt have thought it was a shader or a bitmap as the texture I use is shared for the whole terrain texture.. and it's only 3 damn triangles... argg

It will be none vehicle.. well definetly non banshee or scorpion

the map looks smaller in the images than it is.. the bases are kinda huge so I think maybe 4 warthogs..

kaptainkommie · Post by **kaptainkommie** » Fri Jun 25, 2004 11:02 am

Good job man, that's amazing. Could be a wonderfully fun map too.

fallen_angel · Post by **fallen_angel** » Fri Jun 25, 2004 12:54 pm

I'll also throw my 'well done' onto the big ol pile of them

tbh, it really does look to me like the next bloodgulch

Griff · Post by **Griff** » Sat Jun 26, 2004 5:40 am

early early in-game shots...

as you can see it still needs loads of work.. but at least its int game..

currently only the terrain texture is sorted.. I still need to re map the surrounding cliffs and create shaders for the other building textures somehow or other