Tutorial for stretching the collision Models

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Tutorial for stretching the collision Models

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ALL CREDIT GOES TO XORANGE FOR THIS

As I said before, the "panels" used to be the log, which is tree_leafy_fallentunk.
I just renamed everything so that it would be all "authentic".
I used the scenery, model, collision model & appropriate bitmaps.
(I used Milkshape3D to modify the model & Photoshop for the textures.)

Here's the deal with the collision model....
I have limited knowledge of the collision models and it took me quite a bit of research and experimentation to get to the point I'm at.
I have not yet been able to modify this much more than I already have,but I am still working on it.
(I recommend extracting the "panel" collision model meta and taking a look at it in a hex editor. It would also be helpful to extract the log collision model meta frrom a clean cache so you can compare the two and see what changes I made.)
Basically, down at the bottom of that meta there are 8 packets of numbers that represent vertices for the collision model.
(Beginning at 0x269EE30)
Here's what the first packet looks like:
9AEBACBF CA6B9DBE 62F58F3E 04000000
The first three numbers are floats, and are x,y,z coordinates, respectively.
The last number is just the number of the point. So, this one is vertice #4.
To stretch the verts out to where I wanted them I multiplied each Y coord 5x for each set of verts.
That almost did the trick.
Now, near the middle of the collision model meta there are 6 more important packets of data (each 0x10 bytes), which I believe are all floats, beginning at offset 0x269EC08.
I believe these numbers are attributes of the collision model.
The one's I changed are at the end of the 3rd & 4th packets.
The specific floats I changed are @ offsets 0x269EC34 & 0x269EC44.
I'm not exactly sure what these are, but I know that they affect the surface of the collision model. I multiplied them 5x.
Done. That's all I did to the collision model. Multiplied 10 floats by 5. Whee!
I have experimented with making the collision model thinner, wider, etc. with some success.
I have not yet been able to stretch it along the X axis, otherwise I would've made some giant flat platforms.
I have obviously successfully stratched it along the Y axis, though for some reason I can't make it as long as I want...there is some sort of limit that I haven't been able to get past yet.
I have also successfully stretched it along the Z axis, which I haven't really found a use for yet. If you stretch it along Y & Z you end up with a big block. woohoo, right.
This is a pretty simple collision model. Most of them are not as simple because they have more parts.
As UberJim mentioned, you could probably use a diff. collision model and get similar results. Yes, you probably could, but keep in mind that diff. collision models have dff. attributes. For example the door_blast_collision allows you to shoot through it but not walk through it. Thus if you used something else like that you might need to modify it further for it to suit your needs.
You could also use this collision model with another flattened model if you want.

Ok..that's about all I can think of to say about that.
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I figured that might answer some Q's.
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Good to see the credit line.

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Has ANYONE managed to get it bigger than 5x?

I tried 6 and totally fuxx0red it.
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FFFF FFFF seems to be the highest you can go and even that is barely anything.
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could someone post a mod with just one panel in it to be duplicated?
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o sry its like midnite where i live and im real tired
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kaptainkommie wrote:Good to see the credit line.

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Yes, thank you Vegito. :D

Oh, and btw, this is a bit outdated and I, or someone else, will probably make an updated tutorial in the near future as more has been/is being learned.

In the mean time keep an eye on this thread:
http://www.halomods.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=5655
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I can't wait :)
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Post by blink 182 »

what hex program did u use cause those offsets dont work
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blink 182 wrote:what hex program did u use cause those offsets dont work
Hex Workshop, but that doesn't matter.
Those offsets are for BG, XBOX, NTSC.
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