Death Penalty.

[Cuda]

If I was president I would abolish the UN.

umm, the UN isn't run by the US, it's run by the world's leaders, so how would becoming president allow for the disbanding of the UN?

1. The UN building is in NYC, pres has control of that.
2. The US is the most powerful nation in the world, they should have no problem abolishing an organization, plus I don't think anyone like the UN so no one would have any problems getting rid of it.

Gewd Gawd, Back on my home PC in time to break down a member.

1.)Yes it is, but it's not controlled by the U.S. See: Kofi Annan.
2.) The U.S. Is powerful, enough to take over the entire world, But Would create a lot of enemies, and can cause an all out war. Not to mention, with a Weak leadership that lacks the capability to control the entire world. The U.N. Was created for world peace. So a country abolishing a Corps with means of peace would portray the US as a Bully of the Global community and we will lose what little allies we still have left.


As for the Case of Saddam husein, He should be burned at the stake with Boxes of .22 Caliber Hollow point bullets strapped to, and around him, enclosed in a Steel and Lexan Windows for our viewing pleaseure.

[gh0570fchurch]

So if they shoot out his knees, hang him by his testicles, and broadcast all of this publicly; then what makes us better than him? Inhumanity is inhumanity is inhumanity - no matter what the circumstances. I'm not saying let him free, hell, they can give him the death penalty for all I care; but let's not take ourselves down to his level.

agreed.

agreed about the agree.

[The_Hushed_Casket]

If I was president I would abolish the UN.

umm, the UN isn't run by the US, it's run by the world's leaders, so how would becoming president allow for the disbanding of the UN?

1. The UN building is in NYC, pres has control of that.
2. The US is the most powerful nation in the world, they should have no problem abolishing an organization, plus I don't think anyone like the UN so no one would have any problems getting rid of it.

The UN has offices all over the world and an EU headquarters in Geneva, Switzerland.

If you would open your eyes for a second, you would realize that the rest of the world (yeah, there's a rest of the world) likes the UN. The only reason you don't like them is because they try to keep us from torturing innocent people and holding them indefinitely without trial; how inconvenient.

The US may be the 'most powerful nation in the world' (we're the most militant at least), but we aren't more powerful than the rest of the world combined.

most people can and should be forgiven, it's almost never necassary for revenge. but why let someone walk off painlessly after they took the life they were given and used it to make the lifes of others miserable. some people deserve a second chance but not him. we have him many chances. and each time someone else was torutred and killed all because they wanted to live their life the way the wanted to. there's no mercy in a case like his.

What is the point of torturing him? Would it really make you feel better?
And for that matter, why broadcast it publicly? Have we as a society degenerated to the point that we have to watch someone be hanged just to be entertained?
I'm reminded of the passage in 1984 where Winston goes to the movies, which have become snuff films of the government massacring unarmed people.

[Hyperdash]

A definite haging but I really don't see why we would watch. He is going to hell anyways so he will get his.

[dos mes]

A definite haging but I really don't see why we would watch. He is going to hell anyways so he will get his.

Please don't bring unproven religious beliefs into this.

As for Sadam, I don't think he should get the death penalty. He should be forced to live in a tiny completely dark cell for the rest of his life and never be allowed contact with anyone but the guards near the cell(or something along those lines). Getting the death penalty seems too easy of a way out for what he's done...

[Caboose{SE}]

What is the point of torturing him? Would it really make you feel better?
And for that matter, why broadcast it publicly? Have we as a society degenerated to the point that we have to watch someone be hanged just to be entertained?
I'm reminded of the passage in 1984 where Winston goes to the movies, which have become snuff films of the government massacring unarmed people.

i never said torture i think a hanging is adequit. and i never said it was for entertainment. i personaly just want to watch him suffer for what he has done thinking he was going to get off free.

[{TLS} UPSman]

how does hanging somebody cost us money on the electric bill? also, we're not killing him, they are.

yea but it would also save money on buying the rope, paying the guys to create the gallows, as well as having a camera to film it. If you just throw him off the cliff, then you wont even need to clean up teh "mess", be able to turn the spot "Where Saddam Hussein DIED!" into a historic tourist attraction and get money thata way, as well as saving some trees and film. He would fall too fast to really tape it if you threw him off the grand canyon.
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[Tural]

That's stupid.

[{TLS} UPSman]

it may be! but at least i try to get some more tourist attractions around the US (like we dont have enough already...)

[Index]

Killing him will only make him a martyr in the eyes of his followers.

making sure he rots away in a third world prison, until he eventually dies of old age and disease would be a much more fitting end.

[Tural]

it may be! but at least i try to get some more tourist attractions around the US (like we dont have enough already...)

...It's not happening here...

[V0Lt4Ge]

It wouldn't be a tourist attraction anyways, more like a target range.

[rossmum]

If I was president I would abolish the UN.

umm, the UN isn't run by the US, it's run by the world's leaders, so how would becoming president allow for the disbanding of the UN?

1. The UN building is in NYC, pres has control of that.
2. The US is the most powerful nation in the world, they should have no problem abolishing an organization, plus I don't think anyone like the UN so no one would have any problems getting rid of it.

...And as well as insurgents, you'd have the rest of the world pissed at you for going around thinking you own the world. News flash! The US doesn't own the world and nor do they have any right to abolish international committies. Aside from that, not even the US could stand up to the entire UN short of using nukes, but then again the other UN nations have their own.

It's this "we can walk into your country and do whatever the fuck we like" attitude that makes people get pissed off at Americans, you know...

[Patrickssj6]

If I was president I would abolish the UN.

umm, the UN isn't run by the US, it's run by the world's leaders, so how would becoming president allow for the disbanding of the UN?

1. The UN building is in NYC, pres has control of that.
2. The US is the most powerful nation in the world, they should have no problem abolishing an organization, plus I don't think anyone like the UN so no one would have any problems getting rid of it.

lol @ that.

Sry but that's the biggest crap I've heard in a long time.

I'm pretty sure america doesn't want a war against the UN,against the world.Destroying the UN,wow.

If you think that millatary power controls the world..wow...

[Reaper21]

When you think about it, what the hell are we gonna get for killing him? I don't know much about the middle east or any of those guys religion but with all that strong influence, when we kill him, the followers might think his spirit became some god, or saint or somethin and wouldn't that just fuel them more? Just a guess.

and about the U.N. I do belive the U.S. has a GREAT influence on it, no matter what figure head rules it. The whole world is full of figure heads. Do you realise how many spys, informants, diplomats and instaallations all across the world? Its not the military power, its somethin going on in the background. Think about it, with our technology and stuff, we could of crushed any opposition over there in a year or 2, but we wanted to preserve the good Iraq people (at least thats what we're supposed to belive) and bring the nation back together, but what else is going on? Like I said about figure heads, i don't care who runs the U.N or the U.S. its the hidden people within, same goes for Saddam Hussein, I always thought, and knew that he wasn't the big problem, hes just a figurehead on both sides, 1 man, not a group. making many people belive, "f hes gone they're all gone" and its never worked that way.

[rossmum]

When you think about it, what the hell are we gonna get for killing him? I don't know much about the middle east or any of those guys religion but with all that strong influence, when we kill him, the followers might think his spirit became some god, or saint or somethin and wouldn't that just fuel them more? Just a guess.

and about the U.N. I do belive the U.S. has a GREAT influence on it, no matter what figure head rules it. The whole world is full of figure heads. Do you realise how many spys, informants, diplomats and instaallations all across the world? Its not the military power, its somethin going on in the background. Think about it, with our technology and stuff, we could of crushed any opposition over there in a year or 2, but we wanted to preserve the good Iraq people (at least thats what we're supposed to belive) and bring the nation back together, but what else is going on? Like I said about figure heads, i don't care who runs the U.N or the U.S. its the hidden people within, same goes for Saddam Hussein, I always thought, and knew that he wasn't the big problem, hes just a figurehead on both sides, 1 man, not a group. making many people belive, "f hes gone they're all gone" and its never worked that way.

Problem is, for all the awesome tech the US has, only very few of their military units can actually use it to any effect or without killing friendly soldiers. Other nations may not have the same tech, but they have better training and hence would be able to win a firefight with most or all US military units... >_>

Either way, he deserves to be hung. Anything else is too fast and painless, and a life sentence would waste money that could be spent on reversing the damage he caused.

[noxiousraccoon]

most people can and should be forgiven, it's almost never necassary for revenge. but why let someone walk off painlessly after they took the life they were given and used it to make the lifes of others miserable. some people deserve a second chance but not him. we have him many chances. and each time someone else was torutred and killed all because they wanted to live their life the way the wanted to. there's no mercy in a case like his.

With your reaction, couldnt you relate this response to President Bush?

[Tural]

Bump. I don't feel this deserves a new topic.

New reports say Saddam is to be hanged within the hour. By 10 p.m. Eastern Time, by 6 a.m. in Baghdad.

http://www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/meast/12/ ... index.html

Edit: Al-Arabiya is reporting Saddam Hussein is dead.

[RaVNzCRoFT]

He is dead.

[Scotch]

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