Warlock Ce Update

Finish a new model/mesh? Got something you're working on? Finish a new map? Here's the place to post it for feedback and whatnot.
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Xe-Bec wrote: they edited wizerd and anyone who can import a .obj into 3ds max could do what they did i made the whole thing from scratch
No we didn't.

Do I smell Ripped textures in this one?

First of all your not on the H2CE team, so don't go around posting bullshit like that.

Secondly, if I remember correctly there arn't any RTR in Warlock and having it in CE is gonna kill everyone's FPS
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Dude, kornman. Chillout man. I've played wizard before and I'm sure everybody here has played both of the maps(wizard and warlock). I've seen the things that make the h2ce's warlock just a little rip from wizard. All I know is that it was not rebuilt from 1 box and whatnot. Part of the h2ce warlock IS wizard, and I know it. And while XBec and myself may not be on the h2ce team, we can clearly point out things that just don't belong and were actually part of wizard in the first place. We have eyes kornman, and we sure as hell use them.
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Post by NiTrOuSoXiDe »

I don't normally post here, but seeing as we're being bashed, I'll give my words.
Halo 2 ce team can suck my balls...
Very mature. That makes you very credible as a mapper, and simply does nothing but show that you are threatened by us. Why don't you give yourself some credibility and say something like "Well, I understand that the H2CE team has already started a Warlock project, but I am kind of displeased with the innaccuracy of it. I chose to attempt to remodel the level from scratch. Here's a few pictures, tell me what you think."

No, you chose to be an asshole and flame me and my team for no reason at all. What, do you think we make our maps just to piss you off? Do you think we bust our asses and spend our time/money just to spite you? Do you feel we have no right to make maps?

Apparently, you do, judging by your ignorant comments towards us. Also, little do your buddies here know, that your pal "SirRoderick" (if that isn't actually you) PMed me on my forums, begging for me to give him our weapon tags for him to use in this map. When I began explaining that we already had the map done, and that we chose not to distribute our weapons, he began flaming me, calling me names and insulting our project. If our project sucks so much, and we have no talent, and so on and so forth, why would your team be begging me for my tags????

For starters, you have ripped textures, shitty radiosity, terribly configured shaders, dynamic reflections (umm, idiot?), no ambience, completely innaccurate lighting, no detail maps, absolutely herrendous bump maps, no fine detailing and one hell of an oversized ego.

Annnnnnnnnnndd don't go around assuming things that you have NO clue as to what the hell you're talking about. Retuxtured wizard??? LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Also, if you brushed up on your first grade phonix, you could probably make out the little shapes on our website to be actual letters, words and sentences. Some of those sentences say:

"No, it's not simply a retextured Wizard. The structural layout is exact to that of Warlock in Halo 2."

No, it's not 100% exactly like the H2 Warlock. The overall layout is there, but I made some of my own visual differences that DO NOT affect gameplay in any way.

No, it's not ripped.

No, those textures are not ripped."

Just to list a few...

Let's go back and review one specific sentence.

"The overall layout is there, but I made some of my own visual differences that DO NOT affect gameplay in any way. "

Now, if you had the sense of a frickin gnat, you could understand that OURS WASN'T MADE TO HAVE THE SAME STRUCTURAL DETAIL AS THE HALO 2 VERSION! We made our own touches and details, that although are probably not quite as pleasing to the eye, we feel they suffice enough. Plus, it's not like we have an amazing amount of time to spend anyway. We did what we could in the time slot provided.

And in the end, c'mon, you're going to compare this junk...





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with this?

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Just look at the quality differences. Our bumpmaps as far more detailed, are shaders are actually configured correctly, our radiosity is accurate and detailed, we have very nice ambience, detail maps are actually USED and used correctly, we have fine detailing and environmental detail all over the place, and fine tuned to near perfection, and we actually have work and careful planning put into this map. Your map looks thrown together in a desperate attempt to 'out do the H2CE guys', and many others have tried and failed. Not to toot my own horn or anything (there seems to be plenty of egotistical talk here anyway), but ours is BY FAR better than yours. The only reason I go that far as to say something like that, is because you bashed me and my team in every which way possible, when in reality we never did anything to you.

Thanks for your time.



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If you are not using a ripped wizard then please explain the circled objects.

1: The light on the ledge is not there in warlock but is in wizard. Hmmmmm.

2: The stone thing at the base is the EXACT same shape as the wizard one. Plus warlock has 2 stones of greater scale. Hmmmmmmmmm.

3: The air tunnel entrance to the base. I don't remeber those side walls being there in warlock. However, I do remeber them in wizard. Hmmmmmmmmmmmmm.

4: The actual enterance to the base in warlock was more ruiny and kooler, not just so square like in wizard. Hmmmmmmmmmmmmm.

5: The teleporter entrance was more rough and scratched up, but is just the same in wizard.


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I clearly make my point, and anybody that can see could point those errors out. Sorry h2ce team, I know you work very hard but I see a retextured/BSP edited wizrd. Not a warlock.
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Post by Rallos »

Calm down, this is turning into a flamefest.
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okay, first of all, I dont map... cant model for anything. I posted that out of spite, I waited forever for maps by you guys, and I still havent gotten but two of them. sorry if I offended you, but this map is meant to be xe-bec's go at mapping warlock, please don't get me wrong, you guys did a good job on your warlock, it has very good graphical quality about it. Me and xe-bec have played this thing alot, and we have found that it is very fun to play. I hope that ur guys is just as fun. No hard feelings?
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Post by Xe-Bec »

wait one fucking sec one my bitmaps are not ripped nor is the model ask scoobydoo he made the bitmaps with me and the bumps in that picture are not done i have edited them some more to make it look more real and the radiosity i used was 0 on those pics i will do a radiosity of 1 when i am done. and i never said you can suck my balls did i dont put shit into my mouth like that. sain said that not me.

i would also like to say i have had 8 people in a game in warlock no one lagged there is no lag and there will be no lag.


i would like to add i dont bag like you nitro or like a dog i asked if i could use you tags and you said no i said that was fine and i told you what a friend of mine thought about you guys i got tags now i just was wondering so i wouldnt have to make them. but i found someone with better tags.
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Post by CMDR Reservoir »

I agree with Xe-Bec. I may not be helping him, but you guys(h2ce) think way to highly of yourselfs. You may be good, but saying people have challanged you and have lost, well that could just be a relative measure as far as I am concerned. I really don't care what you say about this map because, I like it way more than yours and you just let me know if there are any more errors that you want me to spot out and you forgot to cover up about your warlock really being wizard. It's funny that you guys come here to cover your asses, because if your so good and can't be beat, and if you know your warlock is not a wizard rip(not true to me and others), AND if you know that your warlock is better than Xe-Bec's(also not true to me and others), then why the hell post here in such a lovely speech trying to get others to go with your map? It's all about Xe-Bec in this topic. Not about you guys.
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I have H2 tags that I am making if you want them.
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Post by Gavel »

The BSP looks nice, the skin needs some work though.
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Post by Xe-Bec »

I am still fixing little bugs like the bumps, shaders and some of the textures.
and may ye not forget that its only a radiosity of 0 : (, i will do a radiosity of 1 when i am all the way done with it.
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Maybe I can get some more pics out sometime soon :wink:
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I have those EXACT groundn textures, I can compare them side by side grass particle for grass particle, oh he made this, he made that. Yes I know proof to back it up, isn't it bit odd that the textures are pixel for pixel accurate, yet you couldn't even put a detail map, or get a correct bump on it? You can make a pixel for pixel replica of a texture, yet the bump map isn't above simple lines? sad
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Post by Xe-Bec »

say what my texture ground is diff the halo 2 look at it i made small cracks halo 2 made big cracks my bumps are not done said to say or i would post and show you i will put my texture up here vegi and you put a halo 2 texture up here show me that they are the same.
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Retype that, in literate english.
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Post by Xe-Bec »

ok i will type geek for you. post warlocks ground texture. and i will post my ground texture so people can see its not the same.
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Yes, Geek is proper wording. Moron.

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Post by MaD_MuNkY »

I think everyone needs to take a chill pill

im suprised this isnt locked by know...
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Post by Veegie »

He was just so overzelous to post their texture, responding ever 50 seconds, and now he won't even reply. Sad? Yes.
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Post by Xe-Bec »

no i am looking at were to host my texture,
lol forgive the right side of the texure i must have moved it when i was typing on it.
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